Top 100 JA albums - the results!!!

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Top 100 JA albums - the results!!!

Postby Zapatoo_the_Tiger » Fri Feb 03, 2006 1:35 pm

(Note: also posted on Trojan)

At long last, I have collated the results of the Top 100 JA albums poll, but first, a couple of things I should say:
    1) Many thanks to all those who took the time and trouble to provide me with their votes those months ago
    2) My humble apologies for not getting round to publishing this sooner – frankly, I was a little disheartened that, after the initial flurry of votes, everything dried up. In all, I received 49 sets, almost everyone voting in both categories – optimistically, I was looking forward to around 100 responses :? – there was more work in this than I’d anticipated, having to deal with mis- and different spellings and the slightly different titlings.
What I would say is that I reckon those who voted are far more in the know about JA music, so our votes are perhaps more meaningful. Also, when voting in "popular" polls, more often than not, the voter is presented with a finite list of well-known JA albums - thus, restricting choice and resulting in an unrealistic result!!!

In putting these lists together, several things cropped up:
    ==> Burning Spear's "Creation Rebel" (Heartbeat) and "…At studio One" (Soul Jazz) are considered to be the same album (16 of the former's tracks duplicated on the latter) - the 1973 album "Studio One Presents…" only contains 6 tracks duplicated with the 2 albums mentioned - not enough to be considered the same.
    ==> Marcus Garvey - the original JA release's votes, as well as the double "Garvey's Ghost" album have been grouped with the UK release
    ==> Jesus Dread is essentially a VA compilation, but appeared in both lists - SA votes combined with VA votes (nobody had this album in both of their lists)
    ==> Foundation Ska is counted as a single artist set, though it also appeared in both lists
I’ll include a few statistics later (it wouldn’t be me if I didn’t, would it :wink: ?) in a different “reply”. In the meantime, here we go with the top 100s – both of the number 1s were well ahead in their respective categories and looking down the list, I wonder how much it would change if I ran the same poll again – not much I suspect :wink: - quality wins out:

Top 100 Single-Artist albums
(Actually the first 101, due to equal points)
    1 Congos - Heart Of The Congos
    2 Bob Andy - Songbook
    3 Abyssinians - Forward On To Zion (aka Satta Massa Ganna)
    4 Augustus Pablo - King Tubby Meets Rockers Uptown
    5 Burning Spear - Marcus Garvey
    6 Heptones - On Top
    7 Mighty Diamonds - Right Time
    8 Culture - Two Sevens Clash
    9= Bunny Wailer - Blackheart Man
    9= Dennis Brown - Joseph's Coat Of Many Colours (Promised Land)
    11 Lee Perry & the Upsetters - Super Ape
    12 Burning Spear - Creation Rebel (or Sounds of the Burning Spear)
    13 Horace Andy - In The Light
    14 Burning Spear - Studio One Presents
    15 Wailing Souls - Wailing Souls
    16 Gregory Isaacs - Extra Classic
    17 Keith Hudson - Flesh Of My Skin Blood Of My Blood
    18 Horace Andy - Skylarking
    19= Bob Marley & the Wailers - Soul Revolution (aka African Herbsman)
    19= Dr. Alimantado - Best Dressed Chicken In Town
    21= Bob Marley - Songs Of Freedom
    21= Glen Brown & King Tubby - Termination Dub
    23= Dennis Brown - Visions Of Dennis Brown
    23= Gladiators - Trenchtown Mix Up
    25 Skatalites - Foundation Ska
    26= Ethiopians - The Original Reggae Hit Sound of the Ethiopians
    26= Max Romeo - War Ina Babylon
    26= Skatalites - Ska Boo Da Ba
    26= Wailing Souls - Firehouse Rock
    30 Black Uhuru - Showcase
    31= Steel Pulse - True Democracy
    31= U Roy - Version Galore
    33= Freddie McGregor - Bobby Bobylon
    33= Israel Vibration - The Same Song
    33= Jacob Miller - Who Sah Jah No Dread?
    36 Junior Murvin - Police And Thieves
    37 Hugh Mundell - Afriica Must Be Free By 1983
    38 Junior Byles - Beat Down Babylon - The Upsetters Years
    39 Little Roy - Tafari Earth Uprising
    40= Bim Sherman - Love Forever 1974-78
    40= Bob Marley & the Wailers - Catch A Fire
    40= I Roy - Presenting I Roy
    40= Rico Rodriguez - Man From Wareika
    44= Augustus Pablo - This Is Augustus Pablo
    44= Prince Buster - Fabulous Greatest Hits
    44= Royals - Pick Up The Pieces
    47= Augustus Pablo - Original Rockers
    47= Bob Marley & the Wailers - Soul Rebels
    49 Culture - Production Something
    50= Big Youth - Screaming Target
    50= Vivian Jackson & The Prophets - Ram A Dam (Conquering Lion)
    52 Big Youth - Natty Universal Dread
    53= Alton Ellis - Sunday Coming
    53= Ethiopians - Everything Crash
    53= Pat Kelly - Pat Kelly Sings
    56= Freddie McKay - Creation
    56= Knowledge - Straight Outta Trenchtown
    56= Prince Allah - Only Love Can Conquer
    56= Sugar Minott - Showcase
    56= Susan Cadogan - Hurt So Good Plus
    56= U Roy - Jah Son of Africa
    62 Jackie Mittoo - Keyboard King At Studio One
    63= African Head Charge - Songs Of Praise
    63= Big Youth - Dreadlocks Dread
    63= Dennis Brown - Live At Montreux
    63= Dennis Brown - Wolves And Leopards
    63= Earth & Stone - Kool Roots
    63= Ethiopians - Woman Capture Man
    63= Prince Far I - Psalms For I
    63= Rudy Mills - Reggae Hits
    63= Skatalites - Phoenix City
    63= Upsetters - Return Of The Super Ape
    73= Cedric 'Im' Brooks - The Light Of Saba
    73= Joe Higgs - Life Of Contradiction
    73= Wailing Souls - At Channel One
    76= Alton Ellis - Sings Rock And Soul
    76= Barrington Levy - Robin Hood
    76= Bob Marley & the Wailers - Uprising
    76= Cedric 'Im' Brooks - Flash Forward
    76= Desmond Dekker - This Is Desmond Dekker
    76= Jackie Mittoo - In London
    76= Ken Parker - Best Of: Groovin' In Style
    76= King Tubby - Freedom Sounds in Dub
    76= Maytals - Funky Kingston/In The Dark
    85 Alton Ellis - Be True To Yourself
    86= Alton Ellis - Mr Soul Of Jamaica
    86= Big Youth - Ride Like Lightning 1972-76
    86= Bob Marley & the Wailers - Confrontation
    86= Bunny Wailer - Rock 'N' Groove
    86= Burning Spear - Burning Spear
    86= Don Drummond - Best Of
    86= Ijahman Levi - Haile I Hymn
    86= Ken Boothe - Everything I Own: Best Of
    86= Paragons - On The Beach
    86= Peter Tosh - Equal Rights
    86= Pioneers - Longshot
    86= Roland Alphonso - Something Special
    86= Scientist - Dub Landing
    86= Silvertones - Silver Bullets
    86= Upsetters - Return Of Django
    86= Wailing Souls - Wild Suspense
…and now…
Top 100 Various-Artist albums
(The first 102, due to equal points)
    1 Jesus Dread - Yabby U Productions
    2 Arkology 1976-1979
    3 Lee Perry & Friends - Open The Gate 1974-1976
    4 Tougher Than Tough: The Story of Jamaican Music
    5 Rebel Music - An Anthology Of Reggae Music
    6 Chantells And Friends - Children Of Jah
    7 The Harder They Come
    8 Duke Reid's Treasure Chest
    9= Studio One Scorcher Instrumentals
    9= Tighten Up Vol. 2
    11 Studio One Roots
    12 Tighten Up Vol. 1
    13 We Are Getting Bad: The Sound of Phase One 1978-79
    14 Pirate's Choice
    15 Darker than Blue
    16 Jamaican Memories
    17 Trojan Reggae Rarities Box Set
    18 Studio One Discomix
    19 Trojan Rocksteady Box Set
    20 Black Slavery Days
    21 If DJ Was Your Trade
    22 Rockers! (Soundtrack)
    23 Jack Ruby Presents The Black Foundation
    24 Respect To Studio One
    25= Studio Kinda Cloudy
    25= Voodooism 1976-1979
    27 Ska Bonanza: the Studio One Ska Years
    28= Firehouse Revolution - King Tubby’s Productions In The Digital Era 1985-89
    28= Reggae Chartbusters Vol. 1
    30= Reggae Special
    30= Studio One Rockers
    32= Build The Ark: The Upsetters & Friends 1972-1976
    32= Little Roy & Friends: Packin House
    32= Wiser Dread
    35 Dread Meets Punk Rockers Uptown
    36= Reggae Hits '69 Vol. 2
    36= Studio One Story
    36= The Hudson Affair
    39 King Tubby's Special
    40= Skinhead Revolt
    40= Studio One DJs
    40= Studio One Ska
    43= Hottest Hits Vol. 2
    43= Red Red Wine Vol. 1
    45 Keep The Pressure Down
    46= Tree Of Satta (Abyssinians And Friends)
    46= Virgin Frontline Vol. 1
    48 Flag Flown High - The Best Of Bobby Digital’s Roots Productions
    49= Gas Greatest Hits
    49= Gaz Mayall's Top Ska Tunes
    49= Let Me Tell You Boy
    49= Money Maker
    53= Books Of Drifter
    53= High Explosion
    53= Nice Up The Dance
    53= Sir Coxsone and Duke Reid in Concert at Forresters Hall
    53= Tighten Up Vol. 3
    53= Tighten Up Vol. 4
    53= Trojan D.J. Box Set
    53= Trojan Ska Rarities Box Set
    61 Randys 17 North Parade
    62= Biggest Dancehall Anthems '79-'82
    62= Club Reggae Vol. 2
    62= Club Ska Vol.1
    62= Duke Reid's Rock Steady
    62= Greensleeves Sampler Vol. 1
    62= Hottest Hits Vol. 1
    62= Lee Perry - Singles Collection 1968 To 1979 - Anthology
    62= Microphone Attack 1974-78 - Niney
    62= Prince Buster Record Shack Presents the Original Golden Oldies Volume 2
    62= Reggae Giant - Glen Brown Prouctions
    62= Reggae Island
    62= Roots Techniques
    62= Sounds Of Jamaica Top 10
    62= This is Reggae Vol. 1
    62= Trojan Dub Box Set Vol. 1
    77 Linval Thompson Productions - Can't Stop Us Now
    78= Boss Reggae
    78= Club Reggae Vol. 3
    78= Here Comes The Duke
    78= Hottest Hits
    78= Jimmy Radway - Keep The Pressure Down
    78= Larks From The Ark 1976-1979
    78= Leslie Kong's Connection
    78= Music House Vol. 1
    78= Original Reggae Jam - Greensleeves Reggae Hits
    78= Red Bumb Ball
    78= Reggae Hits Vol. 1
    89= Augustus Pablo Presents Rockers International
    89= Clint Eastwood
    89= Club Reggae Vol. 1
    89= Dub: Original Bass Culture
    89= Intensified Ska
    89= Jack Ruby Hi Fi
    89= Jah Love Rockers
    89= Lloyd Daley's Matador Productions
    89= Music House Vol. 2
    89= Musical Fever - Coxsone Dodd Productions
    89= Nu-Beat Greatests Hits
    89= People Funny Boy
    89= Ranking Miss P Presents: Sweet Harmony
    89= Trojan Nyahbinghi Box Set
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Postby Anonymous » Fri Feb 03, 2006 2:05 pm

This is a really useful resource Zapa - and a beautiful piece of compiling if I may say so - so well done sir!

Interesting that the number ones in boith lists are right here:
http://www.bloodandfire.co.uk/discography.php

Nice to see Bim Sherman right up there at equal number 41 too.

:D

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Postby Zapatoo_the_Tiger » Fri Feb 03, 2006 2:09 pm

Thanks John - I'd say that pretty well all of both lists would be handsome additions to anyone's collection.

...I haven't checked to see how many I have from those lists 8)
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Postby Ringo » Fri Feb 03, 2006 2:14 pm

Very interesting reading, good effort. Nice to see a reasonably comprehensive survey taken from actual reggae fans.
The top 20 look about as would be expected, although I was thrown a bit by the inclusion of compilations like the Soul Jazz Burning Spear.
A couple of big surprises to me lower down though. I would never have expected to see the Susan Cadogan or that African Head Charge LP on there and I reckon I'd be hard pushed to find more that 5 tracks on compilations in my house by Rudy Mills.

Now for a real challenge, how about a 100 best JA 45s? That I would like to see.
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Postby Zapatoo_the_Tiger » Fri Feb 03, 2006 2:21 pm

Hi Ringo, thanks for your kind remarks - regarding Susan Cadogan creeping in, this is due to the comparatively few voters and the spread of selections - 49 voters, almost all with 10 each (in fact, 473 albums), 246 different albums.

It only takes a couple of people to vote this album up in their lists and Bingo! in it goes - which is what happened here!

Regarding best JA 45s (including UK releases, of course) - good idea, I'll ponder that and perhaps run one a bit more tightly, timewise. If I can fathom out a slick way of doing this, I'll post an "invitation" here and elsewhere...

But not immediately - gives folk a chance to ponder some favourite 3 (maybe) selections.
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Postby steve0 » Fri Feb 03, 2006 2:26 pm

Would it be possible for you to let us know at what point in each list the votes are less than... say '4' or '5'? That should help to show which are the less relevant results.

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Postby Ringo » Fri Feb 03, 2006 2:38 pm

Yes Zap, 49 sounds like a large number but I can imagaine that there must have been huge overlap with some of the favourites.
I can also see that the the ones which I'm surprised at are also the ones I wouldn't want to own, so of course that can be explained by my own personal preferences.
I've already forwarded this to 3 people in various stages of the beginnings of their reggae journey with the advice that this beats the pants off any list they'll ever see in Mojo.

Do you think there is much of a bias towards roots due to the BAF sources, or have the Trojan types evened it out? There doesn't look to be much bias there to me.

PS Are 38 and 54 on the compilations the same?
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Postby Zapatoo_the_Tiger » Fri Feb 03, 2006 2:53 pm

If there is a bias, Ringo, then so be it - though a good number of voters post (or used to!) here, mostly they did/do so on Trojan as well, plus votes were received from older "hams" such as myself!

I don't have the comparative ages of the voters so can't analyse that way :(

Hell, yes :mad: 38 and 54 are the same - I'll have to change all this and re-publish - I tried valiantly to iron out all the variations of spelling and title, but missed this one - thanks for spotting it mate :) :?

Steve0 - at no point in either list was the scoring below 4 or 5 - the lowest was 8 (single) and 7 (Various) - hope that helps
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Postby Natty Rajah » Fri Feb 03, 2006 2:55 pm

22= Dennis Brown - Joseph's Coat Of Many Colours

38= Dennis Brown - Promised Land

are these not the same album (the latter plus a few bonus tracks, but essentially the same if you consider the Heartbeat and Soul Jazz Spear sets equivalent)?

admittedly i missed the vote, but i'm surprised by the absence of:

Twinkle Brothers - Countrymen
Bob Marley & Wailers - Survival
(especially when Confrontation got in there!)
Steel Pulse - Handsworth Revolution
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Postby Pluto » Fri Feb 03, 2006 3:41 pm

Very nice & useful list, thanks Zapattoo!

Btw, Zap, I'm afraid I spotted another double on the various list: Children Of Jah at both nr. 6 & 43.

Ringo, I think I'm to blame for getting said African Head Charge album so high. :oops:

Zapattoo, did you use the "opposite rank"? i.e. Nr. 1 in a top 10 list gets 10 points, nr. 2 gets 9 ... and nr. 10 gets 1? It's the most common practice but it can be proved problematic - as Ringo observed a single nr. 1 ranking vote can give more points than several lower votes. You could try the 20-19-18-...-10 points system to decrease albums appearing high in the list with only one vote.

Anyway, great job.
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Postby steve0 » Fri Feb 03, 2006 3:46 pm

Steve0 - at no point in either list was the scoring below 4 or 5 - the lowest was 8 (single) and 7 (Various) - hope that helps


Thanks Zap, that must mean that people's voting was more evenly spread than I thought. I had assumed that the most popular ones would have received a much larger proportion of the votes.

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Postby Zapatoo_the_Tiger » Fri Feb 03, 2006 10:21 pm

Natty Rajah wrote:
22= Dennis Brown - Joseph's Coat Of Many Colours

38= Dennis Brown - Promised Land

are these not the same album (the latter plus a few bonus tracks, but essentially the same if you consider the Heartbeat and Soul Jazz Spear sets equivalent)?

admittedly i missed the vote, but i'm surprised by the absence of:

Twinkle Brothers - Countrymen
Bob Marley & Wailers - Survival
(especially when Confrontation got in there!)
Steel Pulse - Handsworth Revolution
I don't know re the Dennis Brown albums, NR - perhaps someone can confirm.

Also, the Twinkle Brothers made it as equal 123rd., though neither Survival nor Handsworth Revolution polled any votes :(


Pluto wrote:I'm afraid I spotted another double on the various list: Children Of Jah at both nr. 6 & 43
Thanks, Pluto - I'll sort and re-post (probably in the morning now)
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Postby Zapatoo_the_Tiger » Fri Feb 03, 2006 10:25 pm

Corrected "Children Of Jah" - I hope that the only doubt remains with the Dennis Brown albums, mentioned by Natty Rajah :)
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Postby Anvil » Fri Feb 03, 2006 10:31 pm

How many people voted? And where/how was this poll promoted?

Not really sure what this list means without that information.

(Edit - 49 voters I see now - I should have read the entire thread before posting)
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Postby Anvil » Fri Feb 03, 2006 10:33 pm

13 We Are Getting Bad: The Sound of Phase One 1978-79

Great set ... perhaps all the people who bought it, voted for it. James complained this was a poor seller.
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