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Postby His_Imperial_Measurements » Tue Dec 14, 2004 12:43 pm

I note with interest that under the 'forthcoming releases' section of the Trojan web-site that there are several tracks featured that have already seen the light of day through B+F releases. Tommy McCook's 'Riding West' and Jah Stitch are just two that spring to mind.
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Postby Anonymous » Tue Dec 14, 2004 4:02 pm

Trojan/Sanctuary just seemingly put out anything they feel like these days.

Several of the box sets have tunes on for instance, that were licenced to Pama/Jetstar.

So nowt new there.....

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Postby His_Imperial_Measurements » Tue Dec 14, 2004 4:40 pm

"Trojan/Sanctuary just seemingly put out anything they feel like these days."

Nah, I don't think so, someone must have licensed those tracks to Sanctuary, I nominate Bunny 'Striker' Lee as the most likely culprit as he has a bit of previous for double dealing and old habits die hard I'm afraid.

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Postby Anonymous » Tue Dec 14, 2004 4:56 pm

Just as the Palmer family willingly licenced all those Pama tracks to them for the Skinhead and Revive box sets? :roll:

To quote a phrase

nah I don't think so :D

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Postby His_Imperial_Measurements » Tue Dec 14, 2004 5:45 pm

Hahaha!

Have you considered the possibility that they may no longer be the owners of that material?

Also you might like to consider the possibility that B+F have licensed the tracks on the forthcoming Trojan releases. God knows what they do these days, but they ain't releasing any new material on their own label also it might be easier to lease stuff out to Trojan and let them do all the leg work.

Just a thought.

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Postby tim p » Tue Dec 14, 2004 6:17 pm

Trojan releases

FEBRUARY 2005
TJNBX225 - LEE PERRY - I AM THE UPSETTER: 4-DISC BOX SET
TJDDD236 - DENNIS BROWN - MONEY IN MY POCKET: DEFINITIVE COLLECTION
TJDDD237 - JACKIE EDWARDS - THIS IS MY STORY
TJETD238 - VARIOUS ARTISTS - TROJAN SKA RARITIES BOX SET
RZDCD018 - GREGORY ISAACS - SINGS DENNIS BROWN (RAS RECORDS)
RZACD020 - FREDDIE MCGREGOR - REGGAE FEELING: THE RAS COLLECTION (RAS RECORDS)

JANUARY 2005

TLSAN014 - VARIOUS ARTISTS - REGGAE LOVE SONGS 2
TJACD182 - THE VULCANS AND FRIENDS - STAR TREK
TJETD226 - VARIOUS ARTISTS - TROJAN ROOTS AND CULTURE BOX SET
TJCCD228 - THE BLUES BUSTERS - BEHOLD: THE BEST OF
TJDDD230 - TOMMY MCCOOK - REAL COOL
RZACD013 - DEAN FRASER - KILL DEM WID SAX: THE RAS COLLECTION (RAS RECORDS)
RZACD017 - CRAZY CARIBS - DANCEHALL DUB (RAS RECORDS)
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Postby benja » Tue Dec 14, 2004 10:17 pm

TJDDD236 - DENNIS BROWN - MONEY IN MY POCKET: DEFINITIVE COLLECTION

You mean more definitive than the previous 2 disc set? Gheeeez!
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Postby jb welda » Tue Dec 14, 2004 11:13 pm

personally i really dig the DBC compilation that trojan put out a couple months ago. yeah sure we all got most of it already (but i was surprised at how much of it i didnt have) but the presentation, packaging, "jingles" (more like specials in many cases) and the running order are all top notch and very nice. the liner notes especially were great, running down the history of dread broadcasting company, something that may be very common knowledge to those over in the UK but something we in the states know little about (speaking for myself) other than that i got a few buttons and a t shirt at one time. those t shirts were total RUFF and i always wanted more, but by that time i couldnt find any.

so, trojan has my support these days. they seem to be putting out interesting stuff from nice masters and thats good enough for me, along with knowing firsthand that they are seeking out artists or producers and making sure they get money in hand, which i always understood to be a problem with the "trojan" label proper.

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Postby jb welda » Tue Dec 14, 2004 11:18 pm

though i would have to amend my prior post by saying they are putting out some pretty weak stuff sourced from the RAS catalog. that catalog is about 20% killer, 30% okay and 50% dreck...they seem to be concentrating on the dreck (gregory sings dennis, dean fraser, etc).

but i guess you cant have everything.

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Postby DrSuperlove » Tue Dec 14, 2004 11:47 pm

well i'd take their recent releases over B+F's easily, the Phyllis Dillon, Alton Ellis, Skatalites, Horace Andy and Let's Do Rocksteady sets from the last few years are all excellent - nothing much exciting in the forthcoming releases, though, unless the roots and culture box will be as good as their roots box
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Postby tim p » Tue Dec 14, 2004 11:53 pm

Roots And Culture Box Set looks like this:

-CD BOX SET
DISC 1:
Don't Cut Off Your Dreadlocks - Linval Thompson
Joyful Locks - U Roy
Beautiful Africa - Gregory Isaacs
Satta Dread - Wayne Jarrett
Satta - I Roy
Babylon De Pon Fire - Truth, Fact And Correct
Dreadlocks Man - Prince Lincoln & The Royal Rasses
Guess Who's Comming To Dinner - Michael Rose
Natty Alright - Jah Woosh
Jah Forgive Them - Leroy Smart
Warrior - Johnny Clarke
Africe - Winston Heywood & The Hombres
Black Harmony Killer - Jah Stitch
Rasta Train - Doctor Alimantado & Raphael Green
Last War (Jah Jah Children Arise) - Zap Pow
Open The Gate - Watty Burnett
An African Child - The Heptones
CD 2:
Zion Chant - Freddie McGregor
African World Wide - Dillinger
Roman Soldiers Of Babylon - The Inner Circle
Revolution - Tapper Zukie
Confusion In A Babylon (Aka Mutiny) - Niney & The Observers
Land Of Love - The Sons Of Light
Stop Your Brutality - Horace Andy
Free Up The Prsioners - Lee Perry
What A Gathering - Mike Brooks
Mr Big Man - Porti (Aka Glasford Manning)
To The Foundations - Dennis Brown
Forward With Jah Orthodox - Mystic I
Blessed Are They - Cornel Campbell
Eyes On Africa - The Mighty Diamonds
Zion - Knowledge
Trod With Jah - Barrington Levy
DISC 3:
Protect Them - Barry Brown
Give Thanks And Praise - Jimmy Riley
Marcus Garvey's Back In Town - The In Crowd
The Children Are Crying - Alton Ellis
Brother Noah - The Black Shadows
Lightning And Thunder - Bim Sherman
Dreader Than Dread - Sugar Minott
Jah Far I On A Pinnacle - Leroy Sibbles
Free Up Rasta - Al Campbell
Who No (Wa'an Come) - The Wailing Souls
Babylon - Tristan Palmer
Jah Footsteps - Prince Far I
Jah Jah (The Intelligence Of Your Mind) - The Viceroys
Jah Love - Anthony Johnson
Why You So Craven - Israel Vibration
Bring The Sensi Come - Johnny Osbourne
Chalice - Charlie Chalin

Lots of quality tunes, some filler and some stuff that most people (on this forum at least) will have 5 times over already. I really don't like the Box Set format and I'm currently leading a one man campaign against them on the Trojan forum (and loosing of course!)
http://www.trojanrecords.co.uk/forum/viewtopic.php?t=1183 :wink:
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Postby DrSuperlove » Wed Dec 15, 2004 12:02 am

i can't have anything against a series that gave me Carlton Jackson's "History" but true enough sometimes the selection is a bit strange and a lot of those boxes could've fitted on 2 discs instead of 3 but i guess you can't legally call a 2 disc compilation a "box set" :D
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Postby freewheeling frankie » Wed Dec 15, 2004 12:15 am

Yes, can't say I'm a big fan of the box sets either - got about 2 or 3 of them. Of course most of them contain the odd good tune I didn't otherwise have (the ones that aren't based on some stupid notion in the first place like "Sunshine Reggae" or similar twaddle). But few of them are discs I'd put on and leave on - they just contain a few more tracks for the collection.

Having said that, the reason Trojan won't stop doing them is that they are, in my experience, perceived by a lot of punters out there as good value for money and consequently many of the better ones are among Trojan's best-selling product. It's a good marketing concept - Joe Public has heard a few good rocksteady tunes and fancies hearing some more, so he buys a cheap Trojan Rocksteady Box Set because he knows Trojan as top (as in best known) reggae reissue label and reckons (rightly) that he will get quite a few more good rocksteady tunes for not very much money. Which is fine if he hasn't got loads of rocksteady already. Shame about the packaging (though at least it's from renewable sources...), the lack of any particular attempt to sequence the tracks and the usually pretty uninteresting sleeve notes, but for someone on a budget some of them are a good way of picking up a lot of good tunes. I just can't personally stand the sheer randomness of them.

Guess it's always going to be the fate of Trojan to be damned with faint praise by Baffers... but when they do get things right they generally cloak an excellent compilation in an iffy sleeve with a couple of tracks possibly having licensing issues ...
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