Earliest Jamaican 12" Single?

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Earliest Jamaican 12" Single?

Postby adrians wall » Tue Dec 05, 2017 10:56 pm

Does anyone know what this is?

I have a friend who recently came across an Australian 12" single from early (Jan or Feb) 1971 and he was wondering if it might be one of the first 12" 45rpm records. I know that I have an Alton Ellis 12" that says 1971 on the label (Going back to Africa/Lord Deliver Us on Mistic) when the 7" version original came out in 1970 but I was wondering if there are any earlier 12" 45rpm releases?

Any info greatly appreciated.
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Re: Earliest Jamaican 12" Single?

Postby dubstar » Wed Dec 06, 2017 12:02 am

one thing to consider is that JA labels did not always use current print stock; therefore the dates are not always accurate on the labels...
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Re: Earliest Jamaican 12" Single?

Postby marko » Wed Dec 06, 2017 7:52 am

Depends what kind of 12" you are talking, there are all kinds of acetate, private press and 'audiophile' oddities out there but if you are talking about an official release extended mix 45 RPM format this was of course a creation of US disco around 1975, my understanding is that Jamaican 12"s didn't appear until after this time.
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Re: Earliest Jamaican 12" Single?

Postby kalcidis » Wed Dec 06, 2017 8:05 am

The first JA-released one if I've understood it correct was a one-sided LTD/Charmers release or the Jayes.

I can find a reference to the Jayes here:
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Can't find anything about that Charmers 12" though.
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Re: Earliest Jamaican 12" Single?

Postby kalcidis » Wed Dec 06, 2017 8:13 am

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Re: Earliest Jamaican 12" Single?

Postby johnnyB » Wed Dec 06, 2017 9:27 am

Double Exposure’s 1976 “Ten Percent” was the first commercially available 12” single ever. Tom Moulton,the famous disco “mixer”,invented the format in late 1974 when running out of 7” acetates for Al Downing’s “I’ll be Holding On”. So there couldn’t be jamaican 12” singles before 1976.
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Re: Earliest Jamaican 12" Single?

Postby finbar » Wed Dec 06, 2017 2:10 pm

Clive Chin once told me that there was a 12" that preceded the Charmers title that they sold at Randy's, but he couldn't remember the title. He said it was noteworthy because it was one-sided - the producer didn't think to put anything on the "B side".
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Re: Earliest Jamaican 12" Single?

Postby kalcidis » Wed Dec 06, 2017 2:58 pm

Interesting. The Charmers 12" is one-sided.
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Re: Earliest Jamaican 12" Single?

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Re: Earliest Jamaican 12" Single?

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Re: Earliest Jamaican 12" Single?

Postby credezcrew24 » Thu Dec 07, 2017 1:43 am

That synth in the Lloyd Charmers 12" is awful
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Re: Earliest Jamaican 12" Single?

Postby Ranking Glasses » Thu Dec 07, 2017 7:27 am

Not quite answering the question but I inherited an elderly relative's collection which contained several ancient calypso / mento 78rpm 10" singles on the Caribou and other labels. They were from the early 1960's I believe. They disintegrated as I took them out of the bag. :cry:
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