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The Dreaded Rim Shot

Postby underated » Sun Mar 02, 2014 4:49 pm

The thing that bores me more than anything on a standard riddim is the over use of the rim shot ,
Just that basic sound, use of side stick.
Okay so it's the equivalent to the 808 in hip hop, been used for many years & can still sound good.

It's just when it's boring it's truly boring.
Dub makers in the past have used it to pleasing effect when using verb & other fx
Live drummers almost depend on the one drop.

Is there any sounds that get played a lot in reggae productions that bores you ?
Synthesized brass parts played in lots of steppas can be tiresome .

We all know what we love about the music,
so there must be dislikes in there as well :)
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Re: The Dreaded Rim Shot

Postby roots tradition » Sun Mar 02, 2014 6:00 pm

The hi-hat annoys me in flyers, and the guiro percussion thing generally.
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Re: The Dreaded Rim Shot

Postby Well Charge » Mon Mar 03, 2014 10:36 am

I agree with everything above!

I also don't like it - but this occurs more in contemporary reggae - when the vocalist apes the melody of the horns, due to lack of inspiration.
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Re: The Dreaded Rim Shot

Postby kingj » Mon Mar 03, 2014 11:24 am

To me...it's the double drumming...especially when everything is stripped away..and that double drumming is all that's left. linval Thompson productions seem to have it quite a bit...annoying
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Re: The Dreaded Rim Shot

Postby KingSimeonSound » Mon Mar 03, 2014 11:35 am

One of my favourite sounds is… the rim shot. Rather than say what is or isn't great, personally it's all in the production and engineering. Any sounds that are weak let the tune down.

I agree snare/rim's and hats are the regular offenders. The yard productions, Xterminator, Penthouse to name just two, have all sorts of noises you'd never think to hear in a tune, but knowing how to treat it and ten to work it in the mix… that is the skill of those who know.
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Re: The Dreaded Rim Shot

Postby james19 » Mon Mar 03, 2014 3:18 pm

Can deal with a rim shot as long as it is plied with effects. It has become synonymous with reggae - so overused its open to parody, I guess.

Love a good hi hat though. Lots of emphasis put on them in mid to late 70's Tubby's productions (and in most dubs around that time). This one does it for me: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ivT-D5_yO5w
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Re: The Dreaded Rim Shot

Postby roots tradition » Mon Mar 03, 2014 6:37 pm

james19 wrote:Love a good hi hat though. Lots of emphasis put on them in mid to late 70's Tubby's productions (and in most dubs around that time). This one does it for me: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ivT-D5_yO5w

It was called flyers James, and they were mainly just mixed by King Tubby not produced by him.
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Re: The Dreaded Rim Shot

Postby Roman » Mon Mar 03, 2014 7:30 pm

james19: King Tubby became producer in the mid 80s. I don't think he produced any tunes during mid to late 70s - he only mixed tunes for other producers back then.
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Re: The Dreaded Rim Shot

Postby roots tradition » Mon Mar 03, 2014 7:36 pm

Roman wrote:james19: King Tubby became producer in the mid 80s. I don't think he produced any tunes during mid to late 70s

He did actually Roman - Horace Andy Pure Ranking.
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Re: The Dreaded Rim Shot

Postby Rootsman » Mon Mar 03, 2014 7:42 pm

Definitely the triangle. You just stand at the back and ting.
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Re: The Dreaded Rim Shot

Postby Roman » Mon Mar 03, 2014 7:57 pm

roots tradition wrote:
Roman wrote:james19: King Tubby became producer in the mid 80s. I don't think he produced any tunes during mid to late 70s

He did actually Roman - Horace Andy Pure Ranking.


"Pure Ranking" was produced by Brad Osbourne. I don't remember who mixed is - Tubby or Jammy.
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Re: The Dreaded Rim Shot

Postby james19 » Mon Mar 03, 2014 8:36 pm

Roman wrote:james19: King Tubby became producer in the mid 80s. I don't think he produced any tunes during mid to late 70s - he only mixed tunes for other producers back then.


Yikes. Quite correct, apologies.
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Re: The Dreaded Rim Shot

Postby roots tradition » Mon Mar 03, 2014 9:31 pm

Roman wrote:"Pure Ranking" was produced by Brad Osbourne.

No it wasn't the rhythm track was laid at Harry J's by King Tubby and was mixed at King Tubby's. Brad Osbourne just did what he usually did - put it out on his label and credited himself as producer.
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Re: The Dreaded Rim Shot

Postby jb welda » Mon Mar 03, 2014 10:18 pm

jeezus Christ I don't understand; you don't like the very basis of reggae drumming, no rim shots, no hi hat on flyers...what do you have left?

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