roots tradition wrote:I agree but his productions before that were legendary. As far as I know Sly and Robbie never took any of their productions to King Tubby's for mixing/voicing so for me that is what held them back.
early Scratch recordings are crucial and he is a genius there is no doubt
well I believe Soljie is mostly mixing S&R and I really like this clear style of mix. King Tubby is more of raw type of mix, too different to compare. I feel that S&R are intentionally doing this and I apprecilove that because I like Tubbys mix and I like Soljie mix and also Scientist mix but all three got their own styles. Tubby is the most rated because of the futuristic type of mixing while Soljie sounds heavy and clear perfect to play on a heavy HI FI stereo with dolby surround and all that stuff, Tubbys instead is made for a dancehall type of soundsystem like its rated over here. and I feel that S&R still influence reggae music (not talking lovers rock reggae which is mistaken for roots nowadays)
jahkob wrote:did anybody actually read the first post here?
yes I did, and Donovan is a game changer I never said it no true but you can be a gamechanger if you spoil the game just the same way, everybody will remember you but not in a good way. You see Donovan now is rebuilding Sly & Robbie rhythms and started to record bands and honestly it sounds like the stuff Dean Fraser was doing for last 15 years already. This guy had a good dancehall career then he made drop leaf and was caught up in that loop for almost ten years now but Sean Paul flop, Kartel flop so he is trying go to the root where he musically never been before.
Fattis was the last gamechanger who made sense, too bad he stopped producing so early and eventually drop out physically.
capullo wrote:and who brought auto tune to the masses?
first of all it was TPain from Fla but in reggae it was Munga Honorebel and the producer was probably Truckback or some other unrelevant type of producer... maybe Left Side.. who cares lol
Autotune can sound good but the way people use it it sounds like the use of digital-reverb back in 80s when it was new and they put it on snares or whole tracks like those oldschool electro sounds from Hashim or Nucleus making it unplayable nowadays (without beeing an 80's fan).
Also Dave Kelly was a great producer in the 90s but in that time there was also Steely & Clevie, Mafia & Fluxy and Sly & Robbie and Robert Livingstone doing the same and all of them had hits shaping the whole 90s reggae and even hiphop music and some of the pop-music too.
Richard Bell was also important in the 90s and early 2000s but this is related to Fattis because of the conscious style of works but thinking back to early 90s there was Music Works with Shabba who heavily changed the radioplay and I know that Gussie was the producer but to me its in most case Sly and Robbie creating all this not Gussie. or Fattis or other people who pay them to play. Actually almost every big event within the last 30 years has to do with Sly and Robbie. remember Harmony House era in late 90s /early 2000 it was Sly Dunbar playing drums and sometimes Robbie on bass.. Penthouse era sameway, Sly Dunbar along Lenky was the thing of late 90s then it was Lenky alone in 2000s with Donovan and Genius coming up and then it was the mp3 that really made the change but it build back slowly since the laws got harder for sharing and now you have the UK producers on the rise since Curtis Lynch jr got all youngstas and dub/reggae fans attention to UK reggae making possible for older producers have a shine after 2 decades of hard work.
