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Postby chalice » Tue Jan 14, 2014 3:46 pm

hi,
does someone know on which label this version of i am a levi was released:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VJEKNgFia4A
it has such a beautiful intro!
it's different from the haile i hymn LP and also different from the concrete jungle 7"
thanks :D
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Re: ijahman - i am a levi

Postby Roman » Tue Jan 14, 2014 4:40 pm

To me it sounds like the Island Mango CD version.

Island / Mango CD mixes are very different from the ones on the original LP.

BTW there are at least 3 (maybe even 4 or 5) different mixes of this album out there icl Haile I Hymn Chapter 2
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Re: ijahman - i am a levi

Postby kalcidis » Tue Jan 14, 2014 4:48 pm

I only know two different mixes of the album. Chapter 1 (Island LP, 1978) and Chapter 2 (Jahmani LP, 1988). Adding to the confusion however Chapter 2 is marketed as Chapter 1 on CD release. But there's only two of the four tracks that are different mixes from what I recall, even if it's not that radically different though (some flutes and stuff added).

The song in question comes in several different mixes however; Concrete Jungle 7", Jahmani 7", Jahmani/Basic Channel 12" and the two LP's.

An album that never gets old.
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Re: ijahman - i am a levi

Postby Roman » Tue Jan 14, 2014 11:11 pm

Alright let's do a very quick comparison:

First track only, Jah Heavy Load

- sorry I don't have much time @ the moment.

Island CD Chapter 1 lengh 5:24 - no flute added and also a bit more/stronger reverb on some instruments compared to the Chapter 2 mix. The hihats are placed/mixed dead right.

Tres Roots CD Chapter 2 (probably identical to the Jahmani LP) lengh 5:28 - some nice flute added + less reverb. The hihats are still placed/mixed dead right.

My conclusion: very similar but still two different mixes.

Island LP Chapter 1: lengh approximately 5:04 - totally diferent mix that even sounds a bit faster (I mean a bit more high pitched) at the exact speed of 33 1/3 +-0 rpm. The kick drum sound much more defined and the bass sounds definitely heavier to me. The organ is almost unhearable compared to the other two mixes. The hihats are placed/mixed in the middle. Longer delay on solo gtrs + more reverb on the vox tracks etc...

My conclusion: the third mix is radically different from the first two and it's also my favorite. Similar to the Jahmani 7" mix. Probably sounds best on the sound system.

Same vox takes (I am almost 100% sure) used in all 3 mixes.
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Re: ijahman - i am a levi

Postby Roman » Tue Jan 14, 2014 11:54 pm

kalcidis wrote:Adding to the confusion however Chapter 2 is marketed as Chapter 1 on CD release


It was me who wrote it here on this board a couple of years ago. But after a closer listening I realised i was a bit wrong - the mixes are still not 100 % identical.
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Re: ijahman - i am a levi

Postby kalcidis » Wed Jan 15, 2014 7:27 am

I've never heard or seen the Tree Roots CD so I can't vouch for that one. But I've got the Island/Mango CD and to me they sounded similar enough to not discern any differences between Chapter 2 LP and Chapter 1 CD when it comes to bass heaviness etc I see it as master formatting being the culprit and not the mixing in the studio (have a heard time thinking an engineer would mix this release to be less defined and less dynamic).
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Re: ijahman - i am a levi

Postby Roman » Wed Jan 15, 2014 11:25 am

I don't think it's only mastering and I believe I can hear it clearly enough. I simply hear 3 different mixes so let's ask our friend Youtube for some help:

Chapter 1 Island CD ("Jah Heavy Load" only):

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bq77KWL02-8

Chapter 2 Tres Roots CD - ignore the pic in the vid cause this one doesn't sound like Chapter 1 Island CD - I guess the guy who uploaded it didn't scan the Chapter 2 CD sleeve but instead simply used the first jpg he found on the web instead. I still hear it's Chapter 2 cause it's with flutes and also a bit less reverb in the mix, just as I said earlier:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DTGQtrd2qRc

...And the Chapter 1 Island LP (the original LP mix, my favorite) is totally and radically different from both of the above-mentioned ones:

Side A:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xoic62YoRUs
Side B:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QO0A7hPJRa4

I hope u now can hear that there's a big big difference between how "Jah Heavy Load" is mixed (not mastered but mixed) on the Island Chapoter 1 LP and how it's mixed on the Island Chapoter 1 CD. Two completely different mixes, what else can I say?

+ the Tres Roots/Jahmani mix.

3 different mixes in total. It would be interesting to compare Tres Roots cd with Jamani LP. What if the mixes are different? I wouldn't get surprised... Never heard the Jahmani LP...
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Re: ijahman - i am a levi

Postby kalcidis » Wed Jan 15, 2014 12:47 pm

You might be right but to be honest I can't hear any difference between the first and last link with the exception of one being played slightly faster. Same reverb, same instruments coming in and out at the same points, same vocal take. I would still say it's the same mix. Big big difference for you perhaps.
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Re: ijahman - i am a levi

Postby Nicholas » Wed Jan 15, 2014 3:49 pm

The main reason Ijahman did release his own mix is because he was not satisfied with the Island mix, too many parts (horns etc.) being left off the mix.
So these parts were not added, they were part of the original recording but did not appear on the first final mix.

As for the other versions of I'm A Levi and Jah Heavy Load, they're earlier versions, completely different from the album cuts, and they were released as singles circa 1975.

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Re: ijahman - i am a levi

Postby Vinnie » Wed Jan 15, 2014 6:23 pm

where can this cut be found of jah heavy load? http://www.sendspace.com/file/zuxpu3

its a slower cut than the ones mentioned above
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Re: ijahman - i am a levi

Postby Chaz » Wed Jan 15, 2014 6:49 pm

I guess it must be this 80's re-cut. I wouldn't say it was slower though...


http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Ijahman-levi- ... 0915172310
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Re: ijahman - i am a levi

Postby Vinnie » Wed Jan 15, 2014 7:04 pm

Chaz wrote:I guess it must be this 80's re-cut. I wouldn't say it was slower though...


http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Ijahman-levi- ... 0915172310


EDIT: no its another mix

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/I-JAH-MAN-JAH ... 5172310%26

i just realised i had it somewhere and indeed... just played it

regarding 'im a levi'

i just compared island 7" with jahmani album and i notice that the flutes are more pronounced on the album while on the 7" they are more on the background which i personnaly prefer
but lacks a version
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Re: ijahman - i am a levi

Postby Roman » Wed Jan 15, 2014 9:10 pm

Vinnie wrote:where can this cut be found of jah heavy load? http://www.sendspace.com/file/zuxpu3

its a slower cut than the ones mentioned above


it can also be found on his "Inside Out" album from 1989.
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Re: ijahman - i am a levi

Postby Roman » Wed Jan 15, 2014 9:31 pm

kalcidis wrote:You might be right but to be honest I can't hear any difference between the first and last link with the exception of one being played slightly faster. Same reverb, same instruments coming in and out at the same points, same vocal take. I would still say it's the same mix. Big big difference for you perhaps.


U're totally right about the musical part - exactly the same intruments & even same takes in both cases but they're just mixed differently. I say big big difference because I am probably becoming a sort of nerd ) But the mixes are still different... Really different.

The most important thing is that this LP or CD sounds good to our ears and brings joy and pleasure to our lives. Really. When I used to feel tired of and perhaps even a bit disillusioned with reggae music I could't listen to no reggae at all. Exept for Ijahman - especially these three albums by hims:

"Haile I Hymn", "Are We A Warrior" & "Africa"
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Re: ijahman - i am a levi

Postby Roman » Wed Jan 15, 2014 9:42 pm

There's also a beautiful acoustic live version (gtr & vox only) of "Jah Heavy Load" on his "Culture Country" album
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