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OT for jazz fans

Postby Mark T » Thu Nov 07, 2013 1:39 am

Just wondering who else out there likes jazz and what they like.
I have seen very, very few reggae artists live but I have seen:
Max Roach, Steve Lacy (numerous times), Ornette Coleman, Steve Coleman, Dave Holland, Kenny Wheeler, Jan Gabarek, Archie Shepp, Nana Vascocelos, George Lewis, Paul Motian, Mike Stern, Horace Parlan and numerous others.
I would probably put Steve Lacy's sextet gigs at the top.

I love labels like ECM, Art Ensemble of Chicago are massive faces, classic BlueNote can't be beaten and of course pretty much anything by Coltrane and Miles. A Kind of Blue remains one of the most stunning pieces of music in any genre ever, period.

I don't care for Wynton Marsalis - sounds a bit sterile though obviously he is enormously gifted.

Anyway, any other jazz fans?

Mark T
PS sorry if this falls into the 'Are we repeating ourselves' category.
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Re: OT for jazz fans

Postby Natty Matti » Thu Nov 07, 2013 8:59 am

Yeah, I love jazz. Here's some favourite albums of mine:

Monica Zetterlund & Bill Evans - Waltz For Debby lp
Pharaoh Sanders - Black Unity lp
Sonny Rollins - The Bridge lp
Art Pepper - So In Love lp
Charlie Mingus - Tijuana Moods lp
Noah Howard - The Black Ark lp
Billie Holiday - Lady In Satin lp
Miles Davis - In A Silent Way lp
Eric Dolphy - Out To Lunch lp
Alice Coltrane - Journey In Satchidananda lp
Tina Brooks - True Blue lp
Art Ensemble of Chicago - Les Stances A Sophie lp
Albert Ayler - In Greenwich Village lp
Ornette Coleman - Change of the Century lp

Also, can't forget Jan Johansson - Jazz På Svenska, possibly the greatest swedish jazz lp of all time...
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Re: OT for jazz fans

Postby Well Charge » Thu Nov 07, 2013 9:31 am

I've always admired jazz from a distance, never really got into it.
I like off course the jazzy side of reggae: Cedric Brooks, Tommy McCook, studio one...

What would you recommend to a reggaeman to get into jazz?
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Re: OT for jazz fans

Postby Natty Matti » Thu Nov 07, 2013 10:09 am

Well Charge wrote:I've always admired jazz from a distance, never really got into it.
I like off course the jazzy side of reggae: Cedric Brooks, Tommy McCook, studio one...

What would you recommend to a reggaeman to get into jazz?


Quite a few of the titles I recommended in my previous post are free jazz-oriented and might not be suitable to all first time listeners (although that was my main and initial interest in jazz). Some albums that might be a better introduction to the music if one does not like it too "free" and improvised:

Miles Davis - Kind of Blue lp (possibly the best introduction to jazz and still one of the best jazz albums ever released. I know they released a reggae version of this a few years ago but havent checked for that as yet)
John Coltrane - A Love Supreme lp
Lee Morgan - The Sidewinder lp
Bill Evans - Waltz For Debby lp
Cannonball Adderley - Something Else lp

And from my previous list:

Jan Johansson - Jazz På Svenska lp (Jazzy reworkings of old swedish folk music, great and moody album)
Art Pepper - So In Love lp
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Re: OT for jazz fans

Postby rastapopoulos » Thu Nov 07, 2013 10:14 am

a few recommendations:

Charles Mingus - The Black Saint and the Sinner Lady:
A mind blowing album of orchestral sounds

Phillip Coran & Artistic Heritage Ensemble - On the Beach
A blend of jazz and 'universal' rhythms, Cohran studied music from all over the globe

Sun Ra - The Futuristic Sound Of
One of the most accessible albums from the controversial cult figure. He was the one who inspired Cedric Brooks to start improvised sessions that eventually led to The Light Of Saba.

Herbie Hancock - Man Child / Sextant

Thelonius Monk - anything

Miles Davis - Ascenseur Pour L'Echafaud
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Re: OT for jazz fans

Postby John Eden » Thu Nov 07, 2013 1:53 pm

Just been getting into over the last few years.

Most of the stuff I recommend as an introduction has already been mentioned! 8)

Recently enjoying Alice Coltrane's "journey in satchidananda" and "ptah the el daoud".

Also see the thread on here I did a while back about new group "Sons of Kemet": http://bloodandfire.co.uk/db/viewtopic.php?f=1&t=42477
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Re: OT for jazz fans

Postby Well Charge » Thu Nov 07, 2013 2:24 pm

thanks.
Anything with dubby reverb/experimental recording techniques in jazz?
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Re: OT for jazz fans

Postby Mark T » Thu Nov 07, 2013 2:30 pm

Great recommendations already that you can't really go wrong with.
John Coltrane's 'Blue Train' and 'Soul Trane" are beautiful albums. You have to go on a bit of a journey with Trane, if you jump in with the later stuff you may recoil in horror.
Mingus Ah Um! is great as well. I think I've said it before but Blue Note + Rudy Van Gelder (sound engineer) + pretty much any artist is usually good.
Some fabulous music when you need a change from that repetitive reggae that all sounds the same.. 8)
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Re: OT for jazz fans

Postby John Eden » Thu Nov 07, 2013 4:17 pm

Well Charge wrote:thanks.
Anything with dubby reverb/experimental recording techniques in jazz?


Maybe check out Miles Davis "Bitches Brew"? Definitely has its moments.
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Re: OT for jazz fans

Postby shadrach » Thu Nov 07, 2013 5:32 pm

I agree with most of the suggestions already made above, specifically Miles and Herbie. I also share Mark's soft spot for labels as ECM, Verve and Blue Note
In addition to those I'm very fond of most Soft Machine albums (at least until their 6th), Belgium's own Placebo (not the rockband but the jazzcombo feat. Marc Moulin!).
Frank Zappa's 'The Grand Wazoo' finally does deserve a spot in this list too imo
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Re: OT for jazz fans

Postby rastapopoulos » Thu Nov 07, 2013 6:13 pm

Well Charge wrote:thanks.
Anything with dubby reverb/experimental recording techniques in jazz?


There is Eddie Harris who did experiments with live reverb on his tenor sax, check f.e. the album High Voltage on Atlantic.

I love Mingus Ah Um, too. In particular the first track, Better Git It In Your Soul.

Another recommendation Is Yusef Lateef - Live at Cranbrook
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Re: OT for jazz fans

Postby Mark T » Fri Nov 08, 2013 1:45 am

I saw a guy play trombone one time in a trio and he made it interesting by using some sort of reverb/loop thingy (i'm no musician or techy) - but basically he could play a phrase then hit a pedal with his foot and the phrase would repeat as if on a loop then he could play other stuff over the top - it was pretty decent.
Absolutely no idea who it was though now I type the name Sean/Shawn sticks in mind.

Bitches Brew is good - I have the complete sessions version which has different takes and oddities. I also like Terge Rypdal who did a beautiful trio with Jack DeJohnette (incredible drummer) that has reverby type soundscape improvisations - on ECM as so much good stuff is. I bet you can't find a label in the world that recorded music better than ECM it is amazing.
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Re: OT for jazz fans

Postby Lord Dubious » Fri Nov 08, 2013 1:06 pm

Old Stuff:

Clifford Brown and Max Roach
Sonny Rollins- Saxophone Colossus
J. R. Monterose on Blue Note

New Stuff from Chicago:

Anything by Rob Mazurek
Jason Adasiewicz's stuff
Josh Berman's Gang- There Now
I'm mad as hell and I'm not going to take it anymore!
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Re: OT for jazz fans

Postby Natty Matti » Fri Nov 08, 2013 2:45 pm

+1 for Clifford Brown, one of the greatest jazz trumpeters ever! I actually rate him higher than Miles Davis.
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Re: OT for jazz fans

Postby Peter Dalton » Fri Nov 08, 2013 4:05 pm

Anyone with an interest in both reggae and jazz might want to check the following single from 1987: "Jazzy Mood For Love", Ciyo featuring Andy Harewood, Ciyo Records.
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