DKR new releases - Nov. 2011

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Re: DKR new releases - Nov. 2011

Postby Sir Bellyas » Fri Dec 09, 2011 4:36 pm

Big up DKR! Get 'em at Dub Vendor right now!
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Re: DKR new releases - Nov. 2011

Postby yd international » Sat Dec 10, 2011 12:46 am

I know DKR do not mention 'limited' pressings as some do for marketing purposes (resulting in my paranoia). It was more me assuming there aren't huge quantities pressed, so copies could potentially run out sooner rather than later. I'm unsure if there is a typical 'safe' small number of pressings (e.g 500) that are pressed in these situations. No idea of the runnings.

And of course reissue prices shouldn't reflect the perceived value of the OG piece. My point was that a good quality reissue generally retails for a fraction of what the OG goes for nowadays (if it surfaces at all), and that's great and a total blessing as everyone can tek a slice.

To be completely honest, and this may sound a bit ignorant, I don't look too hard at the prices of these reissues.
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Re: DKR new releases - Nov. 2011

Postby dan i dubdub » Sat Dec 10, 2011 3:53 pm

I for one have to thank you for the new Bobby Ellis Tension 7" - awesome tune which I am sure I would never have found otherwise. It would have been one of those that I might hear someone play who has a vast collection of records bought at the time and that would have been that. I have never had an issue with represses, and I think some people either need to grow up or invent a time machine!
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Re: DKR new releases - Nov. 2011

Postby waterhouserock » Wed Dec 21, 2011 6:57 pm

"Its strange that people mention these mysterious selectors of truly rare and sought after tunes, can somebody please drop some names of these holy grail selectors?!"

King Floyd, Winston bionic, obediah, asherg, duke Neville, tinyt, febus, massa, sugar merchant, crazy Joe, rootikalist, Archie,aba shaka, Steve rice, massa, tommy, terrible twins, gladdy, etc etc plus many orig sounds from 60s onwards like v rocket, Quaker etc who didn't sell out the music (or loose it thro jail, sticky fingers etc)

if you advertise represses on a discussion board prepare for it to be discussed, without taking offence, getting personal or making up offensive irrelevant justification to ridicule collectors.
There is no way that forces tune would have got repressed if it hadn't been fetching big money on the internet. I doubt rb would admit it tho, he'd rather insult collectors.Personally, not my kind of tune..I don't care about 1st press or orig labels so much...and I dont think its the value on popsike that counts, but the value as a piece of music in a soundmans amunition box.I like to hear none everyday tunes on sound systems...I realise there's a new generation discovering old music and home listeners who may not know much of sound system tradition on this forum.The history of the competitive element of selecting is well documented.
There's a serious amount of money to made out of represses, do the maths..then multiply it by big tune after big tune...nothing clever...wherever money is involved, and public auctions reveal the collectors tunes...then money minded people will be attracted. releasing someone else's music after seeing it on eBay don't make you better than no one or entitle you to abuse collectors. Anyone can do reissue music...no specialist knowlege or talent is required.
As for spending wisely, how do you guard against a tune attracting the attention of newly formed repress companies when many records are sold by international public auction? Some tunes I thought were out of the way have been put on street.we need to protect remaining hidden gems..deep selector lock your box!When most of the good tunes are reissued, will many people still pay to come into a dance to hear the original coming trough the speaker boxes?
After all thats what these tunes are made for...sound system. Would anyone say foundation sounds like coxsone and duke reid were "selfish collectors" to scrub out the titles on their 45sto protect the identity?
I doubt anything will change and reggae will continue to attract speculators, the traditions are dying away (its now acceptable for many sounds to not even own any music and to select from pirate cds!!) and a new generation are collecting (which is a good thing)..... would be nice if some manners were used when communicating to others tho.
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Re: DKR new releases - Nov. 2011

Postby vital ital » Wed Dec 21, 2011 8:29 pm

Thanks for dropping those names (serious) but really, those guys are from way back and have history in soundsystem and are not your average reggae selector, i can give respect to that (some selector that everybody knows from back in the day) BUT now a dayz, aint no bag a records no matter how rare going to test the guys building boxes, amps and dubplates, that part of reggae competion you should start to understand and anybody playing out rare music just becuz he hunted it down still dont mean squat in reggae land, if you want some respect, you either producing or making music or your stacking up huge amounts of scoops...


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Re: DKR new releases - Nov. 2011

Postby waterhouserock » Wed Dec 21, 2011 8:42 pm

thats just some names of the top of my head of people that still play nowadays. there are many more collectors/ soundman (and women) old and new out there who can play serious tunes..You asked who drops the "holy grail" tunes,rather than a list of "average" selectors.
Maybe Im wrong, but i doubt everyone knows or have heard all them selectors, especially abroad...certainly not all of them come from a sound system background.
With respect, i do "start to understand".. although i dont make music,I have some experience of the sound system side of reggae and i know what your saying but I dont think it's that simple.there are some collectors, old and new, that could kill some "back in the day" soundman for music, who are respected for their collections and can entertain by playing something special or unusual.
theres some sounds stacking scoops and producers making tunes that aint sayin much.
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Re: DKR new releases - Nov. 2011

Postby vital ital » Thu Dec 22, 2011 7:32 am

I still wonder on what grounds i could give massive respect to some new selector just cuz he got rare tunes, the fact that he has the money to spend on such things or maybe just blind luck in finding it cheap. In todays internet world, its just become a matter of money, and if you have enuff of it you can even buy some moon rock dust for $5000...

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Re: DKR new releases - Nov. 2011

Postby waterhouserock » Thu Dec 22, 2011 1:09 pm

I see what you mean. The internet, ebay, youtube, auction player etc has changed things for ever (or until the sellers run out of original killers) and its probably easier than ever to find out about and buy tunes than ever before, as long as you can outbid everyone else!!Once upon a time, if you were lucky enough to know the tune then they would turn up in second hand shops or sound men would be willing to let them off but its much harder now and the majority of tunes are sold on the internet and referenced against popsike.People often tell me about buying tunes in the late 60s and early 70s (i didnt start collecting till the 80s), and there was only so many copies in the reggae shops at the time and you were lucky to buy it then. I can't afford to buy some of the records that ive been looking for before ebay was around,often outbid by newer collectors, which is frustrating, but thats how it goes...i was lucky enough to pick things up before the internet days and give thanks for this.Its good in some ways that new collectors are keeping the old tunes alive, but i do wonder if clashes with new selectors is more of a display of wealth than excperience, knowledge, taste and connections.Still, a sound is more than just the tunes, its a combination of music, equipment, mike man operator, selector and vibes which cant necessarily be bought on the internet.
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Re: DKR new releases - Nov. 2011

Postby message_music » Thu Dec 22, 2011 4:30 pm

vital ital wrote:Thanks for dropping those names (serious) but really, those guys are from way back and have history in soundsystem and are not your average reggae selector, i can give respect to that (some selector that everybody knows from back in the day) BUT now a dayz, aint no bag a records no matter how rare going to test the guys building boxes, amps and dubplates, that part of reggae competion you should start to understand and anybody playing out rare music just becuz he hunted it down still dont mean squat in reggae land, if you want some respect, you either producing or making music or your stacking up huge amounts of scoops...


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thats nonsense...... its part of the competition, if your selections crap then ur not gonna get rated
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Re: DKR new releases - Nov. 2011

Postby vital ital » Thu Dec 22, 2011 6:02 pm

How you gonna get rated playing on that pub PA anywayz!? Whatever to your nonsense.

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Re: DKR new releases - Nov. 2011

Postby message_music » Thu Dec 22, 2011 6:47 pm

read what i said. thats PART of the competition, you can have the loudest sounding sound in the land but if ur selections not as good as the other guys people will remember it, they came to listen to music after all. :D
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Re: DKR new releases - Nov. 2011

Postby vital ital » Thu Dec 22, 2011 8:16 pm

fair enuff. happy holidaz.

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Re: DKR new releases - Nov. 2011

Postby Jah_Wisdom » Sat Dec 24, 2011 2:34 pm

Come in RB Wha Ya Say with the next batch of DKR releases.

Bloody intrigued mate!
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Re: DKR new releases - Nov. 2011

Postby RB » Sat Dec 24, 2011 4:48 pm

Jah_Wisdom wrote:Come in RB Wha Ya Say with the next batch of DKR releases.

Bloody intrigued mate!


will be up by saturday 12/31 if not sooner. hold tight.
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Re: DKR new releases - Nov. 2011

Postby Jah_Wisdom » Mon Jan 09, 2012 6:19 pm

EZ RB

When are the Digital English tunes hitting the U.K to shops like Tanty Blakamix Dub Vendor Reggae Music Store etc?
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