Hap-Ki-Do (Atra)

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Hap-Ki-Do (Atra)

Postby Jackie Pablo » Wed Dec 22, 2004 2:11 pm

According to Tapir's excellent discography site
ATRA 22 = 'Action Wood' - Prince Williams / Hapkido

This record (along with a part 2) was also out on ATRA 004 A / ATRA 004 B

The copy I have is labelled on side A
ATRA 23 A = 'Action Wood' - Prince Williams (matrix = 22 A)
produced by Jubby.
Is there any Upsetter / Black Ark involvement? Female vocal by Fay?

The B side is labelled
ATRA 23 B = 'Hap-Ki-Do' - Augustus Pablo (matrix = 22 B)
produced by L Chin

'Hap-Ki-Do' does not sound like it has anything to do with Leonard Chin or Augustus Pablo, although A Pablo could be playing the organ that is strongly featured, along with some delightful trombone playing.

Any info/clarification appreciated

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Postby wareika » Wed Dec 22, 2004 3:59 pm

This tune was discussed on the old board. Aaaahhh, we miss the archive cause there was some interesting details.

On my copy on Hot Shot label (US) the producer credited is C Prehay. The B ide is simply credited "D.J. Version" with no details. This tune is not a deejay cut on the same riddim.

i remember that the discussion about this tune was about the producer. So far I remember there was a link between C Prehay and L Chin... Can't remenber which one tho'

Hope it serve

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Postby ian » Wed Dec 22, 2004 7:20 pm

According to RKR...

Prince Williams - Big Wood (as Action Wood) prod. by L.Perry / Jubie ATRA 04-A 1973 ATRA 22-A 1974 ATRAD 001 12"


Augustus Pablo - Hap Kido prod. by C.Prehay ATRA 22-B 1974


Hope this helps...

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Postby Jackie Pablo » Wed Dec 22, 2004 8:06 pm

Looks like your memory served you well wareika.

Sound info as usual Ian.

Thanks guys.
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Postby mike turner » Thu Dec 23, 2004 8:17 am

This is one of those tunes that really demonstrates how hard it is to compile an accurate discography that unites various JA, UK, & US releases.

I have the title on JA Pigeon, as P.William "Action Hood", producer credit to D.Phillip, Arr to Jubie.....it's a sex tune, dialogue between male & female (who doesn't sound like Fay Bennett).

The flip is called Version, by Jubie All Stars, but it's actually the Young Souls - Man A Wail - a Joe Gibbs Amalgamated release from a few years earlier.

This same pairing is found on the U.S. Giant label, which I used to have, only the artist credit on both sides is Action Ellis, the A side called 'Big Wood'; the B side called 'Want It Want It'

No mention of Lee Perry on either release. Our discography is often fleshed out by second hand info, particularly mail order sales lists, and as you know many sellers claim Lee Perry credits on very flimsy & speculative information.

As a further note, the Pigeon label was a catch-all for several producers (Niney, Bunny Lee) . Interesting that it seems to have been an outlet for early slack tunes:

Aitken, Laurel --**** Price
Clarendonians --Early In The Morning
Clarendonians --Peace & Love
Niney & Maxie [Romeo] --Every Pum (Pum Pum)
Niney (as Observers & unk. DJ) --Pop A Water
Niney (as Observers) --Reggaematic
Prince Williams --Big Wood (Action Wood) ( Action) (Big Hood)
Romeo, Max & Niney --Beardman Feast
Rude Girl (as Who?) --Boss Cocky

Also of note is the beautiful riddim used for Big Wood - which can be heard on several nice instrumentals and the great deejay cut by Sir Harry, all appearing on the Morwell Esquire label:

Bingy Bunny & Maurice Wellington --Mafia Boss
Downey, Tyrone (as Morwell Esq.) --Mafia Version
Downey, Tyrone (as Organ D) --Hot Call .
Prince Williams (as P. WIlliam) --Big Wood (Action Wood) ( Action) (Big Hood) Pigeon/Rhythm Force

Sir Harry --Last Call

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Mike Turner - RKR
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Postby informer » Thu Dec 23, 2004 8:32 am

"Last call"

isn't this the wonderful tune with the warm fams bass ?
if so it was released also on trojans "Solid gold" series.
'the one who cleans the s.h.i.t must remember it' (Lee Perry)
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Postby Jackie Pablo » Thu Dec 23, 2004 12:12 pm

Some more on this one.

According to Lol Bell-Brown's Augustus Pablo discography 'Hap Ki Do' / 'Version' come out on a number of labels -
Iron Fist JA
Santic (blank) JA
Monica's Canada
Atra UK.
The record is not the same record as the organ/trombone instrumental I have as this one is described in the discography as Clavinet cut to Freedie McKay's 'Free Man'

'Action Wood' and the Lee Perry connection as described in Dave Katz' 'People Funny Boy'
An Upsetter rhythm .............'Action Wood', a rude song Perry's assistant Jubie had voiced with a deejay called Prince Williams in late 1973.

I don't think the Fay is Fay Bennett, but some other. Only guessing here!
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Postby mike turner » Fri Dec 24, 2004 6:47 am

'"Last call"

isn't this the wonderful tune with the warm fams bass ?
if so it was released also on trojans "Solid gold" series.
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yes that's the one, tip-top late night tune:

Last call
In Harmony Hall
One time down
Come over here and sit on a stool and be cool
I beg you any old way (?)
Hold that music
You could never refuse it
One time down
Line dem up and send dem gone
Destination in orbit.
You can grab it like an Alabama rabbit
Everything's gone all right tonight on this musical site.
One time down.
Let the music rock you one time.
Hold that music.
You could never refuse it.
Crazy like I tell you.
Last call - in Harmony Hall.
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Postby 3pan1 » Fri Dec 24, 2004 7:47 am

somehow I've always avoided this Action Wood tune
don't know why
can it be coz it's dull and has nothing to do with The Upsetter ...
just like Locks Lee 'What Can I Do'
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Postby Jackie Pablo » Fri Dec 24, 2004 1:23 pm

I never thought this record had anthing to do with the Upsetter, but there is every possibility Jubie/Jubby recorded the record at the Upsetter's Black Ark studio - especially if he worked there!

If the record was recorded at Black Ark it obviously does have an Upsetter connection, even if Lee Perry was not in his studio at the time.

Are you suggesting Jubie went to another studio to record this?
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Postby 3pan1 » Fri Dec 24, 2004 2:36 pm

isn't it an earlier track Jack, from '72 around '73 ?
it's ages since i heard it last but I still have the impression in my head that it's earlier than end '73, so indeed no Ark right ?
... or it might be proto Ark still ... :roll:
i should have a listen again.
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Postby Jackie Pablo » Fri Dec 24, 2004 3:27 pm

Thanks for the input 3pan1.

Good point about the dates (if they are right) although I like the 'proto Ark' idea.

Like you say it's not a great record.

I don't think we will ever know all the details about this one (or the much better unrelated B side).

So it goes.
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