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Julian Henriquez’s We the Ragamuffin

Postby mikus » Thu Aug 29, 2013 11:08 pm

How representative is We the Ragamuffin of Peckham?
The whole film was shot on location in Peckham, but the Ragamuffin culture -the current version of reggae at the time - was inspired by Jamaica. If you listen to the music, you can hear all kinds of beats that hearken back to Africa. But the artists featured in the film developed a distinctive crossover style, like Mikey General who sings the main song. It's a uniquely British black Carribean–inspired music scene.


30min film in full here: http://www.dazeddigital.com/artsandcult ... ragamuffin
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Re: Julian Henriquez’s We the Ragamuffin

Postby kalcidis » Fri Aug 30, 2013 7:24 am

Can't check the whole thing now but the little I parts I've watched look very good! Can't wait to my lunch break. Thanks for the link, Mikus. By the way ... is that Mikey General in the movie? Looks like him and they call him General.
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Re: Julian Henriquez’s We the Ragamuffin

Postby mikus » Fri Aug 30, 2013 9:49 am

kalcidis wrote:Can't check the whole thing now but the little I parts I've watched look very good! Can't wait to my lunch break. Thanks for the link, Mikus. By the way ... is that Mikey General in the movie? Looks like him and they call him General.


I believe so (not watched yet either ) 8)
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Re: Julian Henriquez’s We the Ragamuffin

Postby Ranking Glasses » Fri Aug 30, 2013 12:36 pm

This film is as funny now as the first time I saw it. A bunch of people from South East London talking as if they were from Kingston JA.
I was born and raised in the Peckham area and I don't remember it being like that!
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Re: Julian Henriquez’s We the Ragamuffin

Postby mikus » Fri Aug 30, 2013 9:21 pm

Ranking Glasses wrote:This film is as funny now as the first time I saw it. A bunch of people from South East London talking as if they were from Kingston JA.
I was born and raised in the Peckham area and I don't remember it being like that!


Desmonds and Only Fools aren't documentaries either ;)

It does say in the interview:
How representative is We the Ragamuffin of Peckham?
The whole film was shot on location in Peckham, but the Ragamuffin culture -the current version of reggae at the time - was inspired by Jamaica.

so maybe it was a conscious mix up of UK and JA things - a bit of artistic license.

Still, its a bit of history - a fair few old early jungle samples in there too
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Re: Julian Henriquez’s We the Ragamuffin

Postby mikus » Fri Aug 30, 2013 9:35 pm

The club scene was shot in Chicagos, which ended up getting shut down after a shooting if i remember rightly <so some realism there

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Re: Julian Henriquez’s We the Ragamuffin

Postby Ranking Glasses » Fri Aug 30, 2013 9:51 pm

Yeah, I'm pretty sure that was when a bunch of people queuing outside Chicagos were sprayed with an automatic weapon. I don't think that anyone died though. My old school Peckham Manor was just down the road from there.
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Re: Julian Henriquez’s We the Ragamuffin

Postby mikus » Sat Aug 31, 2013 12:10 am

Ranking Glasses wrote:Yeah, I'm pretty sure that was when a bunch of people queuing outside Chicagos were sprayed with an automatic weapon. I don't think that anyone died though. My old school Peckham Manor was just down the road from there.

yeah, thats a miracle. Have you been back to peckham of late? its starting to gentrify....
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Re: Julian Henriquez’s We the Ragamuffin

Postby Ranking Glasses » Sat Aug 31, 2013 9:33 am

Yes Mikus, the middle class is taking over. Many of my friends have moved out of the area to places like Catford and Thornton Heath because the price of property is very expensive in Peckham. The same thing is happening in other places like Camberwell, Brixton and Balham.
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Re: Julian Henriquez’s We the Ragamuffin

Postby mikus » Sat Aug 31, 2013 11:38 am

Ranking Glasses wrote:Yes Mikus, the middle class is taking over. Many of my friends have moved out of the area to places like Catford and Thornton Heath because the price of property is very expensive in Peckham. The same thing is happening in other places like Camberwell, Brixton and Balham.

Catford probably isnt far out enough! Even Thornton Heath might not be!
Seems to me the insane increase in housing costs has many factors: the financial crisis, investment into property by the superrich, the governments plan to inflate our way of debt, the selling of council housing, the lack of new housing being built, the wealth of London and sinking of the rest of the UK, etc, etc, - crazy times....
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Re: Julian Henriquez’s We the Ragamuffin

Postby capullo » Sat Aug 31, 2013 12:23 pm

funny to see where those vocal samples dreadzone used in "one way" originally come from :D

Victor Headley's novel "Yardie" came out around the same time. i wonder if there's any connection?
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Re: Julian Henriquez’s We the Ragamuffin

Postby mikus » Sat Aug 31, 2013 3:20 pm

This tune makes the most use of samples from it that Im aware of
Babylon Timewarp - Durban poison
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=im2vh2aOjfQ

but theres a few 92/93 era hardcore jungle samples in there
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