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Smiley Culture inquest: he stabbed himself!?

Postby Varese » Tue Jul 02, 2013 4:50 pm

Surprisingly the jury have found Smiley stabbed himself. I haven't read a detailed report yet, but this still seems incredible..
http://www.guardian.co.uk/uk-news/2013/jul/02/smiley-culture-inquest-stabbed-police
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Re: Smiley Culture inquest: he stabbed himself!?

Postby edgar » Tue Jul 02, 2013 7:44 pm

crazier things happen in the world.. Like I read some news articles recently about people who cut of their own genitals and sick stuff like that....
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Re: Smiley Culture inquest: he stabbed himself!?

Postby daniel » Tue Jul 02, 2013 8:57 pm

Varese wrote:Surprisingly the jury have found Smiley stabbed himself. I haven't read a detailed report yet, but this still seems incredible..
http://www.guardian.co.uk/uk-news/2013/jul/02/smiley-culture-inquest-stabbed-police


Incredible seems just about right.
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Re: Smiley Culture inquest: he stabbed himself!?

Postby charasi-i » Wed Jul 03, 2013 12:52 am

Another sad story of yet another death in police custody . Between 1990 and 2012 there has been a total of 1433 deaths in the U.K. of people either in police custody or following contact with the police . Some 950 have died in custody , 317 have died whilst being pursued by the police , 112 in road traffic accidents and 54 in police shootings . One in five of all these deaths has been at the hands of the Metropolitan Police ( the London police ) . Despite eleven inquests finding verdicts of unlawfull killing since 1969 not a single police officer has been found guilty of an offence . In 2011 ( the year Smiley Culture died ) 27.27% of all deaths were people who were black or of another ethnic minority depite tham making up only 12% of the overall population of the U.K. Many people would have heard about the higher profile cases of recent years such as Ian Tomlinson , Jean Charles de Menezes and possibly Smiley Culture and Mikey Powell ( Benjamin Zephania's cousin ) but for each of these there are a score more which don't make the national news .
Personally I think that the verdict of this inquest stinks . Even if things happened as the police claim ( which I for one do not believe ) they seriously screwed up by leaving someone who was technically in custody under the guard of ony one officer when potentially lethal weapons where so close to hand ( kitchen knives etc. )
Another case of a death which we will never hear the true story of , just what the Police have put forward to cover their sorry arses with .
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Re: Smiley Culture inquest: he stabbed himself!?

Postby Jack Johnson » Wed Jul 03, 2013 12:12 pm

anyone who's dealt with the met pol in arrest mode knows that the VERY LAST thing they would EVER do is leave and arrested cocaine dealer uncuffed and free to grab a knife. You would have to have an intellect as miniscule and blind as edgar's to believe such obvious bull. :roll:
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Re: Smiley Culture inquest: he stabbed himself!?

Postby edgar » Wed Jul 03, 2013 12:39 pm

Jack Johnson wrote:anyone who's dealt with the met pol in arrest mode knows that the VERY LAST thing they would EVER do is leave and arrested cocaine dealer uncuffed and free to grab a knife. You would have to have an intellect as miniscule and blind as edgar's to believe such obvious bull. :roll:


So you are suggesting the police stabbed him?
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Re: Smiley Culture inquest: he stabbed himself!?

Postby underated » Wed Jul 03, 2013 12:53 pm

Could things have played out the way we are told ?
yes of course, we will never fully know though.
It's so common to read of

'unarmed man shot multiple times'

'man in custody dies'

The thing is that cover ups from decades ago are now coming to light,
It is hard to believe the official story on many things.

Too much deceit & plain lies out there........
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Re: Smiley Culture inquest: he stabbed himself!?

Postby John Eden » Wed Jul 03, 2013 1:47 pm

edgar wrote:
Jack Johnson wrote:anyone who's dealt with the met pol in arrest mode knows that the VERY LAST thing they would EVER do is leave and arrested cocaine dealer uncuffed and free to grab a knife. You would have to have an intellect as miniscule and blind as edgar's to believe such obvious bull. :roll:


So you are suggesting the police stabbed him?


Well that is one possibility, certainly. Another one being that there was some kind of scuffle which ended badly. Or that he killed himself.

It's almost pointless speculating, but several things are clear:

1. David Emmanuel died of a severe stab wound whilst in police custody
2. The only suriving witnesses were police
3. At the very least, the police did not follow their own procedures correctly.

The only sane conclusion to draw from this is that David Emmanuel died as a direct result of police incompetence.
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Re: Smiley Culture inquest: he stabbed himself!?

Postby yms » Wed Jul 03, 2013 6:20 pm

Or it could be that the situation was assessed and based on the fact that proceedings were very civilised they decided it wasn't necessary to handcuff... People can do some crazy **** when they're in what seems like dire circumstances. Shame it happened to be Smiley Culture, feel for his family.
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Re: Smiley Culture inquest: he stabbed himself!?

Postby Varese » Wed Jul 03, 2013 6:52 pm

It's hard to trust the police. Whatever the truth of the situation, even if Smiley took his own life in a fit of whatever at his predicament, the police clearly **** up here. But still, no come back.. Sad.
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