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Re: How do you feel about cameras/video in a dance?

Postby tuathal » Tue Jun 04, 2013 6:05 am

Phones are getting bigger and bigger with screens approaching ipad sizes. You cant bring a lamp into a session so I dont think it should be a birthright to hold up a bright sreen in the air and disturb those around you. Too many people thinking about later all the time, "capturing the moment" , think about your bredrin behind you and enjoy the moment. My 2 bits

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Re: How do you feel about cameras/video in a dance?

Postby underated » Tue Jun 04, 2013 4:39 pm

Yip ,

What happens in the dance, Stays in the dance !

I don't want to watch videos of people smoking & drinking & looking high :)
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Re: How do you feel about cameras/video in a dance?

Postby arty » Tue Jun 04, 2013 7:49 pm

+1 for no fliming or photos.
Don't know how it came to be seen as a right to be able to film someone - normal courtesy demands that you ask first, and it someone says no, then you don't film or take photos.
A photo posted here recently summed it up for me - I forget which thread, but someone singing/deejaying on a sound, and everyone around the singer had a video camera, camera or phone out. Don't they go to a dance to dance?
And the mobile phone youtube clips are always crap. If you just want to ID a tune, just discreetly record an audio clip, no need for all the waste of time low quality videos.
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Re: How do you feel about cameras/video in a dance?

Postby Living Bate » Tue Jun 04, 2013 9:01 pm

I dont see a problem if someone wants to take a snap or two.....but like people are saying, some are spoiling the occassion for themselves because instead of just enjoying it they are constantly trying to capture it......it seems crazy....

i saw Marcia Griffiths a coupla years back and she stopped the show and told someone to stop filming......

its the same with the football though.....Champions League final for example.....everyone trying to capture moments on their mobiles instead of just enjoying it.....plus its being televised for fugz sake!.....
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Re: How do you feel about cameras/video in a dance?

Postby Roman » Thu Jun 06, 2013 10:15 pm

Living Bate & Mikus: I totally agree with you. I used to be like that myself when I was younger - I was always trying to capture as much audio and video as possible and I always ended up tired, stressed and disillusioned. I am not saying "never again" but I'll definitely try to find some balance between filming (if allowed) and enjoying myself ina dance/show cause life is too short.
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Re: How do you feel about cameras/video in a dance?

Postby Anbessa » Fri Jun 07, 2013 8:47 am

I have no problem with people filming or taking pictures in a public dance, but I don't see the point of it either. The quality is usually crap, as the mics can't handle the volume of the speakers, and it's way too dark to see anything.
I did a few times in Jamaica for some special events (shows), like the Count Ossie tribute, and I am glad I did. But it clearly spoils the fun, you can't even dance while filming.

Seeing all these people watching their small screen all night long reminds me of the joke
- "How were your hollidays ?"
- "Don't know, haven't seen the pictures yet"...
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Re: How do you feel about cameras/video in a dance?

Postby dan i dubdub » Fri Jun 07, 2013 1:03 pm

Anbessa wrote:Seeing all these people watching their small screen all night long reminds me of the joke
- "How were your hollidays ?"
- "Don't know, haven't seen the pictures yet"...


BOOM!
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Re: How do you feel about cameras/video in a dance?

Postby rez » Wed Jun 26, 2013 9:00 pm

I think it's crazy that people try and ban people taking a couple of pics in a public space...

Ok I can kind of dig if a particular scene's followers are 99% involved in major criminality and therefore are against any photos of them existing..... but is that really the case with the majority of reggae fans these days?

Nearly got crucified a few years back for taking a picture of one of the PAs in a University of Dub dance. Had to just laugh at the dread gestapo really, I only wanted to have a few memories of a good experience.

Now all that said the modern thing of half the crowd spending their night with cameraphones in hand recording the thing is total ****. But that seems to be a general thing in the last few years with the rise of cameraphones, facebook and all the rest. Need to push back on that as much as we can definitely but a complete ban on pictures is farcical.
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Re: How do you feel about cameras/video in a dance?

Postby Chocolate Soldier » Thu Jun 27, 2013 8:32 am

I don't know the motivation for the no filming policy in this case - but back in the pre mobile phone / pre internet days, bands/music artistes who maintained a no recording/filming policy tended to do this to thwart bootleggers who might then sell unauthorized live recordings/footage.... and also to retain control over their music and performance.

One interesting alternate approach which worked to deflate the chances of bootleggers, create goodwill with fans and promote the music was used by the US rock band the Grateful Dead who created an area at shows for fans to record with a direct board feed provided. Their fans then avidly traded these live show cassettes (pre internet days).

No filming policies seem to be hard to enforce these days seeing as everyone now carries the tools with with them on their mobile phone..

Like Dougie says sometimes stuff people upload to youtube now is not particularly flattering when it comes to artists & their live appearances.

Though with Shaka it could be said the unauthorized youtube clips probably also help to promote him far & wide and to people who have never been to a dance.

It seems with mobile phones & how accustomed everyone has become to documenting everything, there is also a sense of entitlement...

In the case of Shaka dances, if there's a no filming request then I think people should respect that, especially considering that if he or his crew notice people filming or taking pics - it might cause annoyance or distract their train of thought....
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Re: How do you feel about cameras/video in a dance?

Postby mikus » Sat Dec 20, 2014 1:13 pm

Just saw a flyer for University of Dub

along the bottom it has "NO FILMING OR CAMERAS"

the revolution is on ;)

Has anyone been to UoD recently? Are there posters up inside making the point? Anyone been told to stop filming?
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Re: How do you feel about cameras/video in a dance?

Postby jb welda » Sat Dec 20, 2014 9:50 pm

>along the bottom it has "NO FILMING OR CAMERAS"

that's pretty standard. many times it is not enforced at all once inside. sometimes you can get your recorder/camera confiscated but almost always get it back at the end of the night. I have seen a recorder smashed right in front of me by security but that was at a Rolling Stones gig and they don't mess around.

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Re: How do you feel about cameras/video in a dance?

Postby Ranking Glasses » Sun Dec 21, 2014 8:00 am

On one hand, I don't like being filmed in a dance but on the other, filming does capture that moment in history and it promotes the music, the sound systems and the artists involved. Most people can't be at an event because it's in another city or another country, etc., so YouTube is a great way for them to witness the vibes. To achieve the best of both worlds, the promoter should set up cameras discretely to produce the official recording of the event for posting on YouTube and no one else should be able to film to avoid disturbing other people.
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Re: How do you feel about cameras/video in a dance?

Postby mikus » Sun Dec 21, 2014 11:08 am

agree with the post above completely.... since video recording is now so easy, if a sound/live act want there to be footage of the event up online they can do it themselves without breaking a sweat...they can also decide if the footage is good enough to go up.

whereas i do begrude finding the person next to me is pointing a camera at me while im dancing im a lot less grudgeful if there camera is from the promoter

recording the audio i have absolutely no problem with and in fact encourage it!
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Re: How do you feel about cameras/video in a dance?

Postby lankou » Sun Dec 21, 2014 11:13 am

PISSED! If you come to a dance, well, just bloody do that, D-A-N-C-E ! Have a drink, socialize if you can (just not infront of the scoops!), chat up a girl (if there's any left at certain sorts of sound systems !). Well, you know, the works!
There are even people who come with their S***pads! Coming with a recording device is OK but do we really need so many more lame vids with blurred image and distorted tinny sound so that some can prove they were there. It's just like those tourists who spend their holiday filming everything so that they can show their mates when back at home. What did they REALLY feel about the real-life experience?
There are also the usual sam chin-strokers who will rush back at home, ask for the references and duplicate the very same selection (if they can Afford it!), if they get to play their own session ! SILLY and UNORIGINAL!
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