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Top 10 underrated artists in reggae

Postby Chocolate Soldier » Sat May 11, 2013 8:15 pm

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From:
The Encyclopedia of Reggae:
The Golden Age of Roots Reggae
by Mike Alleyne with foreword by Sly Dunbar

http://www.amazon.com/The-Encyclopedia- ... 1402785836


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Re: Top 10 underrated artists in reggae

Postby Donovan » Sat May 11, 2013 9:39 pm

I like Black Slate as #1. Keith Hudson has gone from under to overrated for some reason. They only released 2 albums but how about the Natural-Ites?
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Re: Top 10 underrated artists in reggae

Postby Ranking Glasses » Sun May 12, 2013 7:14 am

It's understandable in some cases:

Black Slate - they lost a lot of credibility when "Amigo" was a mainstream hit.
Keith Hudson - I never understood why people rate him ? Obviously goes over my head.
Ijahman Levi - has made some sublime tunes like Jah Heavy Load, I'm a Levi, Moulding, etc. but also many tunes which are quite dull. Some of his albums were a bit self indulgent with 2 or 3 tracks on one side. I wouldn't have minded if they included the dubs !
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Re: Top 10 underrated artists in reggae

Postby Donovan » Sun May 12, 2013 10:04 am

Amigo was a mainstream hit? That's surprising. I've only discovered them recently due to the excellent Amigo reissue. Now I want Sirens in the City. :D
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Re: Top 10 underrated artists in reggae

Postby KingSimeonSound » Sun May 12, 2013 10:17 am

Fair points, but I don't really feel most of them are underrated. I think all of them are rated, plenty of good music. Seems more like a good starting point to write a book, but really and truly all of them get rating.
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Re: Top 10 underrated artists in reggae

Postby lankou » Sun May 12, 2013 10:22 am

A pretty "strange" list, really.
As said before, Ijahman did a few beautiful tunes but so many dull ones ! Yet, he has managed to sustain a loyal following and tours europe on a fairly regular basis. With such a thin amount of solid tunes, it is almost a miracle ! Chalice is in the same league, imho, though they are not concerned with the touring and following bit.
RPO comes as a surprise as well, not that the concept was necessarily dreadful but the production of their LP reeks of 80's smoothness, it sounds VERY dated.
As for Black Slate, yep, Amigo - far from a bad tune, really ! - was an international hit which went up the european charts in the summer after its release. It was a mainstream hit back then, was played often on the big radios and was clearly one of those tunes which did a lot for reggae's appreciation outside the UK. I'd say that, from that same era, Capital Letters and Reggae Regular are clearly underated. I just don't see why getting a big mainstream hit with a good song should belittle a group's achievements. The rest is just snobbery, as if there was a book of reggae rules (one would almost think so these days...). Was that ever reproached to MARLEY ? Hardly.
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Re: Top 10 underrated artists in reggae

Postby Ranking Glasses » Sun May 12, 2013 12:20 pm

Yeah, some of us are old enough to remember them performing it on Top of the Pops !

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C84mu2I2G-s
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Re: Top 10 underrated artists in reggae

Postby Roman » Sun May 12, 2013 8:24 pm

Who are/is Chalice?
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Re: Top 10 underrated artists in reggae

Postby Inyaki » Mon May 13, 2013 1:32 am

Another pointless list.

Amigo was a hit in the Pop charts in Spain too (81? )....funny that cause nobody there understood what ' O-mee-go' meant! :D
( why on earth they'll pronounce it so wrong?....)
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Re: Top 10 underrated artists in reggae

Postby Ranking Glasses » Mon May 13, 2013 9:29 pm

A bit of a strange one Iankou.

Some artists like Janet Kay (Silly Games), Dennis Brown (Money in my Pocket), Errol Dunkley (OK Fred), Junior Murvin (Police & Thieves) scored international hits without seeming to lose any credibility. While others like Black Slate, Aswad, Pato Banton and even Bob Marley were called "sell outs". I suppose it was about 'keeping it real' and songs like "Amigo", "Don't Turn Around", "Hello Tosh" and "Three Little Birds" were seen as pandering to 'mainstream' tastes.

On the other hand, artists like Sugar Minott (Good Thing Going) and Freddie McGregor (Can't Get You Out of my Mind) made commercial songs but retained their credibility.

Hard to explain.
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Re: Top 10 underrated artists in reggae

Postby lankou » Tue May 14, 2013 5:15 pm

i definitely agree. Still, i tend to believe that most of those sellouts recorded a good number of better tunes than a lot of what is praised as "genuine", "militant" reggae these days. When i read certain current recommendations on BAF, i often go check what the "hype" is all about and, more often than not, end up sighing :"wow, this place used to be different !". :wink:
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Re: Top 10 underrated artists in reggae

Postby Chocolate Soldier » Tue May 14, 2013 11:08 pm

Was a big fan of Black Slate & Misty In Roots back in the day..

I'd consider Black Slate to be a personal musical influence too
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Re: Top 10 underrated artists in reggae

Postby Dub Specialist » Tue May 14, 2013 11:12 pm

Roman wrote:Who are/is Chalice?

dont kno anything about him bruv, but ive dug thu some 12s and found a tune

Chalice-A Wicked Intention (Diamond C) label international records

Self produced by himself and exective prod Gary Peart 1985

hope that some help

a wkd piece a tune still (cant think of the riddim at the mo driving me crazy) lol

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Re: Top 10 underrated artists in reggae

Postby Donovan » Tue May 14, 2013 11:25 pm

I'm still trying to wrap my head around Amigo being a mainstream hit. And that fake bullfighting outfit from the clip isn't helping me. :D Seriously though, it doesn't sound like a crossover hit with that flinty early steel pulse vibe.

From what I know of Chalice, they were a self contained band. I remember their late 80's, advertisements in The Beat, but I never sent away for any of their releases. I think they had a relationship with D.C.'s RAS label.
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Re: Top 10 underrated artists in reggae

Postby minidub » Tue May 14, 2013 11:34 pm

chalice is not a person, but rather a full-fledged group. as far as bands go, they were pretty tight back in the day.

here is what I have by them, except for a couple of other CDs not mentioned, and I've always thought I didn't have much of theirs, aside from LPs and CDs--just very few singles, really:

CHALICE PARDNER DRAW/REMIXED VERSION 7" penthouse
CHALICE DANGEROUS DISTURBANCE/DANGEROUS DUB 7" pipe music
CHALICE CHALICE feat. TARRUS RILEY-GOOD TO BE THERE / VERSION 7" cannon
CHALICE CHALICE & PADDY ROOTS-GOOD TO BE THERE, JAH A THE MAGICIAN/GATES OF ZION OPEN 12" joe gibbs music
CHALICE A WICKED INTENTION/VERSION 12" diamond international
CHALICE BOOTA/VERSION 12" k&k
CHALICE UP TILL NOW LP ras
CHALICE BLASTED LP pipe music
CHALICE STAN' UP LP pipe music
CHALICE STAND UP LP csa
CHALICE CROSSFIRE LP cts
CHALICE LIVE AT REGGAE SUNSPLASH LP sunsplash records
CHALICE SI MI YA LP peace pipe
CHALICE STANDARD PROCEDURE LP pipe music
CHALICE UP TILL NOW CD ras
CHALICE CATCH IT CD rohit

i'm a little shocked that many aren't aware of their music.

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