What a wonderful piece of jazz history!

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What a wonderful piece of jazz history!

Postby BMC » Mon Jan 17, 2005 10:27 pm

I'm probably stating the obvious here, but I'm talkin' about:

John Coltrane - A Love Supreme (Impulse - 2003 reissue)

What a great album! Even though I'm a big fan of jazz, I somehow never got to getting this beauty. Now I have and it's as good as everyone says imo (I heard it once a while ago, but 'really' heard it good since I received it today).

It's also another fine example of a great reissue, package and sound-wise, for which they tracked down a 1965 master tape, instead of the 1971 one used for all previous digital incarnations of this album, which contained some unwanted processing.

"This tape preserves the sonic details with vivid accuracy: Elvin's cymbals, the deep intensity of the vocal chant and the openness of the group sound" - Rudy Van Gelder.

Love it! 8)
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Postby crazydownbeat » Mon Jan 17, 2005 11:05 pm

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Postby crazydownbeat » Mon Jan 17, 2005 11:06 pm

Rudy Van Gelder =the best engineer ever........discuss.
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Postby BMC » Mon Jan 17, 2005 11:06 pm

crazydownbeat wrote:Rudy Van Gelder =the best engineer in the world........discuss.
C.D


Nothing to discuss if you ask me, C.D. He IS! :D
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Postby prajna » Mon Jan 17, 2005 11:11 pm

yep, love supreme is a fantastic set, one of my all time favourite recordings. i'd love to hear the deluxe edition, esp the sextet version of the first part.

if you're enjoying the album you should also check out the book, a love supreme by ashley kahn. the book contains a ton of info on the recording session, including a lot the influence of rvg.
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Postby BMC » Mon Jan 17, 2005 11:20 pm

To be clear, this is not the deluxe edition, but a one-CD reissue with just the 4 album-tracks. That doesn't make it less good though :wink: , as said the quality of music, sound and package is great.

I read about that book in the sleevenotes of this CD, prajna, sounds very interesting. The sleevenotes of this disc are also written by Ashley Kahn and there's also an interview with RVG in there. Very informative!
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Postby prajna » Tue Jan 18, 2005 1:34 am

That doesn't make it less good though


no doubt about that marc. the original issue is so strong, the deluxe addition contains some nice additional tracks - a concert version of the set, plus a sextet version of acknowledgment, the first part, featuring a 2nd bass and archie shepp on tenor sax.
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Postby Chocolate Soldier » Tue Jan 18, 2005 1:49 am

Rudy Gelder is a genius,
There was an interview with him in a recent Tape Op mag - amazing cuz he has almost never done any interviews..ever.
Eccentric guy,
His 1st studio where many classics were cut was his parent's livingroom (!)..Lucky his parents supported his thing..
He later built his own house - around a studio..
Apparently the musicians loved RVG studio because it was out of the hustle of NYC and they could chill, record and have fun with no record label execs hanging around making vibes tense...
An album in an afternoon was the order of the day.
With (most likely) the same mics, same gear everyone else had access to & in his parents livingroom - RVG got genius sounds..
the man had the vision & ears to pull it off the way he heard it..goldenears.
RVG powa!
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Postby Mark T » Tue Jan 18, 2005 3:11 am

Are the deluxe editions and the edition that Marc bought from the same master tapes? I didn't think that a deluxe edition was worth getting but maybe it is.
Rudy Van Gelder stuff is amazing. I know they say Sylvan Morris was a genius and he did create a unique sound but how can you compare it to RVG. (I expect RVG had access to better equipment.)
Lovely stuff.
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Postby BMC » Tue Jan 18, 2005 1:48 pm

So do you guys think Van Gelder would be able to get similar results with a reggae reissue?
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Postby Anonymous » Fri Jan 21, 2005 10:05 am

If we're talking jazz history - I thought I'd share this picture. You might have already seen it but I only recently discovered it so just in case you're unfamiliar with it:

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Also, you can click on the picture and get a close-up along with information about who all these jazz legends are at:
http://www.harlem.org/

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Red Allen

Buster Bailey

Count Basie

Emmett Berry

Art Blakey

Scoville Browne

Lawrence Brown

Buck Clayton

Bill Crump

Vic Dickenson

Roy Eldridge

Art Farmer

Bud Freeman

Dizzy Gillespie

Tyree Glenn

Benny Golson

Sonny Greer

Johnny Griffin

Gigi Gryce

Coleman Hawkins

J.C. Heard

Jay C. Higginbotham

Milt Hinton

Chubby Jackson

Hilton Jefferson

Osie Johnson

Hank Jones

Jimmy Jones

Jo Jones

Taft Jordan

Max Kaminsky

Gene Krupa

Eddie Locke

Marian McPartland

Charles Mingus

Miff Mole

Thelonious Monk

Gerry Mulligan

Oscar Pettiford

Rudy Powell

Luckey Roberts

Sonny Rollins

Jimmy Rushing

Pee Wee Russell

Sahib Shihab

Horace Silver

Zutty Singleton

Stuff Smith

Rex Stewart

Maxine Sullivan

Joe Thomas

Wilbur Ware

Dicky Wells

George Wettling

Ernie Wilkins

Mary Lou Williams

Lester Young
*********************

Enjoy

Baldy
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Postby hot water » Fri Jan 21, 2005 6:56 pm

that picture is framed in the front room of our house.. my wife got it a few years back..

along with some others including this, which was a valentine's day present:

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Postby BMC » Fri Jan 21, 2005 7:47 pm

That are LOVELY pictures guys! Thanks for that! Really nice.
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