more on this riddim ?

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more on this riddim ?

Postby Captain » Fri Jan 14, 2005 11:16 am

I love this riddim, just got the little john cut & I need more :

sammy dread - wrap up a draw (seven leaves 12")
little john - in a de dance (black sword 7")

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Postby Kas » Fri Jan 14, 2005 12:42 pm

I haven't heard those tunes, but I took a quick look at the Reggae Riddims site. It lists the name of that riddim as "Boops".
The oldest songs on that riddim are The Ethiopians' "Train to Skaville" and Marcia Griffiths' "Feel Like Jumping". Does this make any sense to you while listening to the record?

You can check the list (88 cuts) yourself at:
http://www.reggae-riddims.com/

A handy site by the way.
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Postby Captain » Fri Jan 14, 2005 4:00 pm

Hi Kas,
thanks for you reply but it's a different riddim.
The one I'm referring to has no real name I believe, you can hear the sammy dread tune in my sammy dread mix on my site (last tune on the mix) :
http://www.dancehallstyle.com/rm2/sammy-dread_mix.ram

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Postby Kas » Fri Jan 14, 2005 6:58 pm

Oh, I see... Very nice riddim.
I could swear that I have heard that bassline somewhere, but I could be wrong.
Sammy Dread is another fine singer I've only recently discovered. A proper compilation lp wouldn't be a bad idea. Maybe on Makasound...
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Re: more on this riddim ?

Postby Danny Dub » Fri Nov 28, 2014 12:03 am

Almost 10 years late, but what the hell...
"Wrap Up A Draw" sounds to me like it's on the No Vacancy riddim.
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Re: more on this riddim ?

Postby Interrupt » Tue Jan 06, 2015 5:01 pm

also late to the party but this is the duck riddim by steely and cleevie.

http://www.riddimguide.com/tunedb/riddim_Duck/

and here is a video of them programming the riddim!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=crARrMMKa50
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Re: more on this riddim ?

Postby Inyaki » Wed Jan 07, 2015 1:38 am

Is none of the riddims mentioned on this thread

No Vacancy is the closest one but it was recorded afterwards (and apart from a slightly different bassline and key....it has a bridge and a horns motive )
Maybe No Vacancy is slightly based on it?
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Re: more on this riddim ?

Postby soul rebel » Wed Jan 07, 2015 5:29 am

Couldn't it be that the Little John tune and No Vacancy are both versions of the same older riddim? Not that I could say which one... but since many (or even most) riddims from the early 80s are relicks, it would be a natural conclusion. And there are certainly some relicks of older riddims where the bridge is left out.

Anyway, nice tune from Little John. I have a Captain Sinbad called "Hang Them High" on the same label that is fantastic!
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Re: more on this riddim ?

Postby Inyaki » Wed Jan 07, 2015 10:08 am

It could well be why not but most Radics riddims aren't relicks.
Session musicians in the studio have a few minutes to come up with something: sometimes they relick a riddim, sometimes they jam something original and many times they vibe something inbetween ( a melody from one tune, a bassline similar to another, chords from somewhere else, etc...). Sometimes they copy themselves like in this case.
Is a totally standard process (not only in Reggae).
They aren't thinking of what websites or forums are gonna be discussing on the net decades later.
Someone can ask Flabba if he relicked an older bassline..
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