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Postby jumpingmaster » Fri Dec 16, 2005 3:10 am

is much of the wackies stuff available on record still? whats there reissue scene looking like and are they still producing records? I am really interested in things like Jah Batta, Sugar's work there, Jezzreal, Junior Delahaye and I have most of the stuff i can find, but always looking for more or what i missed...any thoughts?

I first heard wackies when i was at a jersey swap meet and found a lp nature's dub, which i think said it was recorded in jersey, or new york, but there was def. a jersey address to the place. anyone know the format of sugar's informer and if its reissued or around for sale, trade? i have some excellent stuff to trade for any sugar or wackies productions on record or if not that cdr. I have the chance at university to teach a little class on music and lord knows i am doing the history of reggae, i have nuff dvds and tunes from count ossie to studio one to channel one, but i was thinking wackies would be good example of at least American produced reggae hard to believe I will have such a chance to teach about reggae. each student getting a mix cdr dub missionary style...respect!
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Postby skunkride » Fri Dec 16, 2005 10:08 am

Almost all of their reissues are still available - check http://www.ebreggae.com/
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Postby rastafariliveth » Fri Dec 16, 2005 9:11 pm

I can help u out with CDRs have planty wackies releases and 7"s+12"s rips, i also have that Sugar - informer somewhere.
The put out alot of great tunes, not sure when they last released something, all there releases have that same tinny feel to them, i suppose it's the mixing desk they use, nice sound to it though.
Love all the Jezreel releases and Lovejoys, all wicked LPs.
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Postby ephteeay » Sat Dec 17, 2005 6:39 am

The put out alot of great tunes, not sure when they last released something, all there releases have that same tinny feel to them


very true! many of them sound like mp3s :o
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Postby rastafariliveth » Sat Dec 17, 2005 10:55 am

Yeh u can always spot a wackies tune straight away by that distinct sound, i wonder if it's bad equiptment they using?

Although i find that some old tunes sound alot better when on an old casette tape recorded from a distant radio station with crackles an all.
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Postby skunkride » Sat Dec 17, 2005 1:00 pm

Never heard a Wackies 12" or LP that sounds tinny or like mp3 ?? Their releases have wonderfull sound (although a bit hissy sometimes which i don't mind at all). Can you give some examples of bad sounding Wackies ??

The 2 7"s i heard doesn't sound great though...but still do the business
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Postby giab » Sat Dec 17, 2005 6:08 pm

thats what I like about the wackies productions, lots of "air" in the high end
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Postby jumpingmaster » Sun Dec 18, 2005 2:36 am

they sound best on soundsystem speakers...though as i have them loaded up in the house, every day is a dancehall now...scoop that bass out and spreads its around the hole house
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Postby rastafariliveth » Sun Dec 18, 2005 2:04 pm

Wackies released an LP in 2004 called: Women inna Wackies Style Limited Edition which i have a copy of, some wicked tunes on there. Not sure if this was there last release? but they are obviously still at it.......
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As for examples of the tinny sound, well take your pick i think it's more noticeble on some albums more than others, eg. Jamaican Super DUB, Roll Model, Wackie Fever
These are just a few albums off the top of my head which u can instantly hear it's a wackies release.
I'm not saying it's a bad sound, it sounds pretty good in a way, has a very raw feel a lotta tweeter action going on. I think maybe it's a drum machine they use on some alums which gives it that sound, not too sure tho......
What a great label though, some real killa tunes in there catalogue, lets hope they keep em comming strong...........
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Postby rastafariliveth » Sun Dec 18, 2005 2:24 pm

Heres a disography i found for them, not sure how complete this is:

2749 Jackie Mittoo Wild Jockey (LP)
SENTA 766-226 Wackies Disco Rock Band Wack Rap (12")
W-001 African Roots Act 1 (LP)
W-001 CD African Roots Act 1 (CD)
W-0028 Sugar Minott International Herb (10")
W-0038 Roots Underground Tribesman Assault (LP)
W-0038 CD Roots Underground Tribesman Assault (CD)
W-0039 Various Reggae Goodies Vol. 1 (LP)
W-0040 Various Reggae Goodies Vol. 2 (LP)
W-0041 Wackies Creation Dub (CD)
W-0041 Wackies Creation Dub (LP)
W-100 Lloyd McTaggart You're Back (12")
W-1050 Leroy Sibbles / Noel Delahaye & Jah Scully This World / Pretty Looks (12")
W-107 Horace Andy Exclusively (LP)
W-1382 Junior Delahaye Showcase (LP)
W-1382 Junior Delahaye Showcase (CD)
W-1383 Horace Andy Dance Hall Style (LP)
W-1383 Horace Andy Dance Hall Style (CD)
W-153 Junior Delahaye Movie Show (12")
W-1716 Wayne Jarrett Mini Showcase (10")
W-1716/1722 CD Horace Andy Meets Naggo Morris & Wayne Jarrett Mini Showcase (CD)
W-1717 African Roots Act 3 - Strictly Dubwise (LP)
W-1717 CD African Roots Act 3 - Strictly Dubwise (CD)
W-1718 Sugar Minott Wicked Ago Feel It (LP)
W-1718 CD Sugar Minott Wicked Ago Feel It (CD)
W-1720 Jamaica Super Dub Session Jamaica Super Dub Session (LP)
W-1720 CD Jamaica Super Dub Session Jamaica Super Dub Session (CD)
W-1722 Various Horace Andy Meets Naggo Morris - Mini Showcase (10")
W-179 Azul / Mickey Jarrett Rockfort Rock / Klu Bly Klan (12")
W-181 Wayne Jarrett & Augustus Pablo Youth Man (12")
W-191 Wayne Jarrett Showcase Vol. 1 (LP)
W-191 CD Wayne Jarrett Showcase Vol. 1 (CD)
W-1988 Super T. / Jah Batta & Skatee West Bound D Train / Style And Fashion (10")
W-210 Stranger Cole / Leroy Sibbles / Bullwackies All Stars The Time is Now / Revolution / Take Time (12")
W-2383 Love Joys Lovers Rock Reggae Style (LP)
W-2383 CD Love Joys Lovers Rock Reggae Style (CD)
W-2384 Various Jah Son Invasion (LP)
W-2395 CD Jah Batta Argument (CD)
W-2395-B Jah Batta Argument (LP)
W-280 Horace Andy Serious Thing (12")
W-295 Prince Douglas Dub Roots (LP)
W-295 Prince Douglas Dub Roots (CD)
W-306 Bullwackies Natures Dub (LP)
W-306 CD Bullwackies Natures Dub (CD)
W-3239 Love Joys Reggae Vibes (LP)
W-3239 CD Love Joys Reggae Vibes (CD)
W-334 CD Clive Field Marshall Poor House Rockers (CD)
W-3482 Ras Clifton Queen Of The Universe (12")
W-39/40 Various Reggae Goodies Vol. 1&2 (CD)
W-510 Meditations, The I Love Jah (LP)
W-589 Various Wicked Ah Go Feel It / Musical Episode (12")
W-617 African Roots Act 2 (LP)
W-617 CD African Roots Act 2 (CD)
W-707 Various Gimme Back (12")
W-709 Junior Delahaye Working Hard For The Rent Man (12")
W-717 Sugar Minott & John Wayne (2) / Black Roots Players Jamming in the Street (12")
W-956 Various Hi Hello (12")
WACKIES 159 Milton Henry & Clive Field Marshall Come On And Rock Me (12")
WACKIES 2389 Tyrone Evans For Lovers Only (LP)
WACKIES 2450CD Milton Henry Who Do You Think I Am? (CD)
WACKIES 2457CD Chosen Brothers, The Sing & Shout (CD)
WACKIES 2735 Chris Wayne Freedom Street (LP)
WACKIES 510 Meditations, The I Love Jah (CD)
WACKIES 5252 Various Money Money / Bull Bay Jumping (12")
WACKIES DISCO 672 Jezreel Stop Playing Tricks (12")
WACKIES N.J. 22 Sugar Minott Doing The Dub (12")
WACKIES N.J. 23 Horace Andy , Wackies Rhythm Force Just My Imagination / Imagination Rock (12")
WM-1003 Horace Andy / Stranger Cole Be Good (10")
WS-01 Various Wackies Sampler Vol. 1 (CD)
WS-02 Various Wackies Sampler Vol. 2 (CD)



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Wackies Profile
By www.freeradicalsounds.com
That Dub got some serious recognition in the 1970's is well documented. Sound systems made and played out their own tunes from their own studio's. Initially these studios and many of their representative soundsytems were from Kingstown Jamaica and much of the technology and techniques in today's contemporary dance and club music scene is clearly and for the most part honestly derived from many of techniques and styles employed by those running their own studio and sound..This is part of the story of the dub sounds which emanated outta New York.


Much less documented is the steady throughput of musicians and singers and players who have stopped by the studio of Lloyd Barnes’ Bronx based collective later to be collectively known as "Bullwackies" or "Wackies" At present there is a sizeable amount of repressed and reissued C.D's and Vinyl releases doing the rounds, here in London. Champion of all things "Wackies" is our friend Rae Cheddae, he has been invaluable in getting this long overdue article together.
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Wackies music has probably been given a higher profile recently as singer songwriter Horace Andy has continued to gain higher profile in the states the UK and Europe with his collaborations with the Bristol based sounds of "Massive Attack" His much earlier works in the states with Lloyd Barnes and crew produced the classic "Dance Hall style" album which for an introduction to Wackies cannot be bettered.
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Long time Wackies aficionado Rae Cheddae explains," It was never intended for the music to be one person so it was like basically cut the bull and lets call it "Wackies". ‘Cause then it just covered everyone, Barbera Lesley, Clive Hunt, Chalice, The Regals, Johnny Osbourne, Milton Henry, Jezz Reel, Robbie Pascal, Jerry Harris and the Sylvester brothers. It was a stable bunch of musicians whoever could turn up and play and were good that was your criteria for getting into the studios, if you could do something or were willing to do something.

The New York based studio and production crew moved and grooved with the finest of the Jamaican Heavy-weight Reggae artists. Bullwackies finely crafted recording and production techniques may well have stemmed from the fact that he began his musical career as a vocalist, this clearly drew out the best in his collaborations with the likes of Wayne Jarrett, Horace Andy, Junior Delahaye and The Love Joys, he has the ability and style to blend sweet soulful lyricism with some raw powerful studio production. Lloyd's move into studio production and ultimately vinyl releases came via quickly created labels such as "City-line, Hardwax, Jumbo Caribbean Disco, Rawsw, Aries and Senrab to touch on but a few.


Around 1983 Lloyd and his colleagues began releasing the material under the now standardised name and logo of 'Wackies'.
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Wackies began issuing tunes on their various labels from about 1974 Denis Brown was around in those early days cutting 'Righteous Man' he may well have cut his first with them. Lloyd as I stated before was actually a singer he did harmonies with Duke Reid, he also knew King Tubby. When you listen to tracks on "Restless Roots Rockers." if you listen to it very carefully you will hear that 'Tubby's' sound in it because he really started off in Jamaica and mixed at Tubby's and later on moved to New York to get himself a studio together. Wackies also had a sound system...which they basically used to take onto the trains. Literally" One speaker one box"

A lot of his releases went under the label of 'City Line' as if you went to the Bronx and went to the end of the City Line then everything every shop was called 'City' something. Just before Coxsone moved to America on a permanent basis Wackies were issuing stuff there was a tune called 'Crab Walking' on a 7" you will see that the colours and the labels were very similar so there are obvious comparisons to be drawn there.


You can check them at there official website: www.wackies.de
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Postby Natty Rajah » Sun Dec 18, 2005 7:58 pm

One thing that has slightly put me off buying Wackies is the shortness of many of the albums - 6 to 8 tracks, often just 4 vocals and their dubs... i know many quality labels put out short LPs back in the day due to vinyl sound quality reasons, but with many of these it would be possible to put extra tracks or even 2 LPs on one CD...

i notice that they have done the latter in a couple of cases (the Horace Andy meets Naggo Morris and Wayne Jarrett and the Reggae Goodies vol 1&2 CDs), but not in many others, meaning that some CDs with only 8 tracks and some others with 18 or 20 are the same price... can't help but think this makes people less likely to fork out for the former, and maybe more likely to pirate CDRs of combined albums...

Strongly tempted to get the aforementioned 2 CDs and the 2 samplers tho, but shipping seems very expensive from that Basic Channel site, and working out the euro to £ conversions and actual ordering rather difficult... are they available more cheaply or quickly from any other reputable suppliers?
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Re: wackies

Postby lionpawsoundsystem » Wed Aug 20, 2014 8:45 pm

That women inna wackies style LP talked about earlier in this thread is seriously hard to find any details on!

Anyone got a copy for sale/trade ide be very interested. Been looking too long

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Re: wackies

Postby Roman » Thu Aug 21, 2014 3:03 pm

///W-181 Wayne Jarrett & Augustus Pablo Youth Man (12") ////

A Glen Brown production, isn't it?

/// W-191 Wayne Jarrett Showcase Vol. 1 (LP)
W-191 CD Wayne Jarrett Showcase Vol. 1 (CD) ////

Showcase Vol. 1 a.k.a. Bubble Up

One of their best releases.

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